The REAL chokehold of 2016

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU

Hello CD !

You probably remember my last thread about cheesecake. Well my team decided not to use this strategy for our next regional, because it's just too much pressure. So here we are, making it public

We were able to design a robot (see thumbnails) to completely block access to both low goals at the same time. We were looking at G25 -C


Both low goals now have a maximum opening of about 8". Pretty hard to force a boulder in there

The chokehold, here, is to make any robot that has no high goal capacity literally unable to score. Any alliance that has no high goal shooter could not do anything else than breaching all game, and, as you should know, those points are very limited. The robot has 3 wheel kiwi drive, that allows it to go over the secret passage, and go sideways under the low bar to come back and capture.

We were able to build the robot in about half a day, using only a jigsaw and about 5 pounds of our withholding allowance for parts that required more complex machining. about 40ft of raw aluminum bars make the frame of the robot.
What do you guys think?

Edit: Bumpers as shown are not legal, we are working on iterating on CAD to make it work

If you built the robot arms to flop down and still be within 15" of the frame perimeter it might work. I can't tell your dimensions from the picture.

However, forget it being a "chokehold". In all of the high score games, almost all of the shots are high goal. They're easier and faster with vision tracking and even with "iron sighting." And the outerworks is a safe zone.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad

If you built the robot arms to flop down and still be within 15" of the frame perimeter it might work. I can't tell your dimensions from the picture.

G25-C, entire alliance gets a yellow card. Means that you get nothing from that design after your first match, and a number of the teams at the event get yellow cards they don't need.

[Cory]

This discussion seems kind of pointless. This robot is worthless (more precisely actively a detriment to the alliance) at champs, which I assume the intent is to get to.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by orangemoore

I invite you to come try our pizza in person. Maybe then you will be able to understand it better.

Originally Posted by Cory

This discussion seems kind of pointless. This robot is worthless (more precisely actively a detriment to the alliance) at champs, which I assume the intent is to get to.

To be fair, getting to and competing at CMP may have entirely different requirements depending on your region and week you are competing.

I would say that, at this point in the season, there are enough high goal shooters at most regionals for it to not be effective.

[dtengineering]

That is a creative idea... had you been able to solve the bumper issues and make a legal robot during build season, you'd likely have an interesting and unique defender.

From a cheesecake point of view however, I think you'd run into some build season rules.

R15 All ROBOT elements (including items intended for use during the competition in alternative configurations of the ROBOT), with the exception of the WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE per R18, BUMPERS, and COTS items, must be bagged and sealed, by 11:59PM local time on Stop Build Day, February 23, 2016

So maybe with the use of COTS parts and the withholding allowance and some work in the pits you'd be able to make it happen, however by altering the bumpers and movement systems you might also end up having a second robot which is disallowed under R1.

My apologies for being part of the "this won't work because" crowd... if the Wright brothers had listened to all the reasons they couldn't get off the ground, they would never have tried. But then again, they didn't have to meet an FRC rule book!

Love the idea!

Jason