Championship Waitlist

[logank013]

When is the full list of waitlist teams usually posted? Thhe INDCMPS is Week 7 this year. I'd like to know any IN teams qualified via the waitlist before then. Will it be known before then?

Last year, two IN teams were known during the week 6 event so I assume yes?

Bonus: Does anyone have a link to a list of teams that qualified via the waitlist? I'm curious if FIRST keeps that specific list on their website. Thanks.

Edit: Also, if anyone does find a list of waitlist teams that have qualified via the waitlist in the later weeks, please post it on this thread too. Thanks.

[Kevin Leonard]

2791 hasn't been to Champs since 2009, and they have the best robot they've ever built. If 2791 doesn't get in off the waitlist to the last real championship, I don't know what criteria even exists for this.

[RufflesRidge]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

I don't know what criteria even exists for this.

No criteria? It's a weighted randomization:

Originally Posted by http://www.firstinspires.org/sites/default/files/uploads/resource_library/frc/registration/2016/championship-eligibility-criteria.pdf

Teams may join the Championship Waitlist to fill any remaining
FIRST Championship slots not consumed by qualifying Regional or District teams. Teams who sign up for the Waitlist will be randomly selected at various points throughout the season in an effort to give teams as much
time to make travel plans as possible while ensuring we do not exceed FIRST Championship capacity.

...

Teams will receive a number of “entries” to get selected from the Waitlist equal to 2016 minus the last year they attended Championship (or their rookie year, or when they most recently returned as an active team, whichever year is the most recent). As examples, a team that attended
in 2015 will get one entry in the waitlist drawing, a team that last attended in 2014 will get two, and a team that has never attended but has been continuously active since 2006 will get ten.

[forbes]

This is the full list of teams that have been invited via wait list as far as I can tell:
as of 4/2

48
188
279
296
333
538
1389
1739
1987
2471
2647
2767
3055
3637
3961
4405
4792
5034
5243
5775 declined

[logank013]

Originally Posted by forbes

This is the full list of teams that have been invited via wait list as far as I can tell:
as of 4/2

48
188
279
296
333
538
1389
1739
1987
2471
2647
2767
3055
3637
3961
4405
4792
5034
5243
5775 declined

How can you tell? And why don't they draw all wait list teams in 1 big drawing on 1 day?

[forbes]

Originally Posted by logank013

How can you tell? And why don't they draw all wait list teams in 1 big drawing on 1 day?

They invite teams as early as possible to give them time to make plans, but they still don't know exactly how many wait list spots there are to give out.

My list is from some interpretation of the data from my website that is tracking the championship registration list: frc.divisions.co/history

[tim-tim]

Here you go Chris

Originally Posted by forbes

My list is from some interpretation of the data from my website that is tracking the championship registration list: frc.divisions.co/history

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by RufflesRidge

No criteria? It's a weighted randomization:

Well thats just it- what you quoted. How is it that 48 is already off the waitlist when they've been to champs almost every year, including last year (no offense to 48, you guys are cool), when 2791 hasn't been since 2009 and isn't. It just seems odd.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Well thats just it- what you quoted. How is it that 48 is already off the waitlist when they've been to champs almost every year, including last year (no offense to 48, you guys are cool), when 2791 hasn't been since 2009 and isn't. It just seems odd.

Agreed we have not ever made championships and have been a team since 2009. I wish it was a little less random but oh well.

[RufflesRidge]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Well thats just it- what you quoted. How is it that 48 is already off the waitlist when they've been to champs almost every year, including last year (no offense to 48, you guys are cool), when 2791 hasn't been since 2009 and isn't. It just seems odd.

Because it's random. If you have 14 teams that went last year on the waitlist, the odds that 1 of them will be picked are twice as high as the odds that a particular team with 7 chances gets picked.

[seg9585]

If a team was invited via waitlist but declined last year, do the number of entries they get in the weighting still depend on their last Championship appearance or is it based on the last invite?

For instance, my team (4276) last attended in 2013 but we were invited and declined in 2015. Do we get 3 entries or 1?

[Mark McLeod]

I'd imagine 3.
The data is much easier to handle just going by past official Championship team lists than having to remember somehow who turned down what and when.

[SenorZ]

Originally Posted by seg9585

Do we get 3 entries or 1?

Its got to be 3. They shouldn't ding you for not being able to afford the event.

Also, I looked up our last invitation. It was sent one whole week AFTER our last event. So we had very little time to plan too.

[Mastonevich]

1987 actually did qualify at Hub City by winning EI. I assume that will open up another spot on the waitlist for a different team in the end.

For those that did apply to the wait list, you will need to have your plan together as they don't give much time to give them an answer.

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Mastonevich

For those that did apply to the wait list, you will need to have your plan together as they don't give much time to give them an answer.

This is very true. We received the invite on Thursday morning. We had to accept or decline within 24 hours of email receipt. We had to secure payment by the following Monday. If you hope to receive a spot, be ready to act immediately should your golden ticket arrive in your Inbox.