IN District Championship

[Peyton Yeung]

Originally Posted by BoilerMentor

What about your alumni team? Don't you want them to win too?

I would love 45 to win state as well. Us champs bubble teams are taking every opportunity we can get.

[BoilerMentor]

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung

I would love 45 to win state as well. Us champs bubble teams are taking every opportunity we can get.

Speaking of, couldn't 461 double qualify too? What's going on here? I'm beginning to question where your allegiances lie...

[Peyton Yeung]

Originally Posted by BoilerMentor

Speaking of, couldn't 461 double qualify too? What's going on here? I'm beginning to question where your allegiances lie...

What I'm hearing is that an 868, 461, 45 alliance needs to win state and we need to also win EI. Double qualifiers for everyone.

Allegiance wise I've been a fan of 868 since we won Boilermaker with them my freshman year for Breakaway and 45 will always have a spot of favoritism to me.

[BoilerMentor]

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung

What I'm hearing is that an 868, 461, 45 alliance needs to win state and we need to also win EI. Double qualifiers for everyone.

Allegiance wise I've been a fan of 868 since we won Boilermaker with them my freshman year for Breakaway and 45 will always have a spot of favoritism to me.

What about us? We could double qualify. Don't you love us anymore?

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Taylor

It makes perfect sense.

Ohio folks are probably pretty salty about this district team - who, from their perspective, won't even let them play in its own state in-season - 'stealing' a CMP position from QCR.
So HQ has put in place a way to discourage district teams from playing in regionals. They just stopped short of completely disallowing it.

This is magnified by the fact that the alliance captain of the winning alliance was 245 from Michigan. In fact, no Ohio teams qualified at all. Three qualifying teams were from Missouri, and one from Pennsylvania.

[bam-bam]

I actually wrote quite a bit about the teams in Indiana after the end of Perry and what to expect. Granted, it was a tad too long for just a summarized post...

At this point in the season, it's so much more important to capture the tower once it goes down for capture. We saw this happen at Perry when 71-1501-829-6012 nearly managed to take down 1024-1747-45 in the finals off of 71's and 1501's double capture. What's more impressive, however, that 1501 was the only team that scored in the high goal on their alliance.

That being said, I feel that 1501 and 4103 will go 1-2 in alliance selections. There's a few reasons specific to captains for choosing one over the other, but those two are the most proven as far as scoring and scaling go. I don't anything about any of the other teams adding a scaling mechanism.

Scary pair-ups: 1501, 4103, 868, 1024, 1747, 135, and 4982
Solid picks: 461, 234, 1741
The ones left over you better take: 71, 1529, 2197, 3147, 3940, 5403

5484 could possible surprise.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by bam-bam

I actually wrote quite a bit about the teams in Indiana after the end of Perry and what to expect. Granted, it was a tad too long for just a summarized post...

At this point in the season, it's so much more important to capture the tower once it goes down for capture. We saw this happen at Perry when 71-1501-829-6012 nearly managed to take down 1024-1747-45 in the finals off of 71's and 1501's double capture. What's more impressive, however, that 1501 was the only team that scored in the high goal on their alliance.

That being said, I feel that 1501 and 4103 will go 1-2 in alliance selections. There's a few reasons specific to captains for choosing one over the other, but those two are the most proven as far as scoring and scaling go. I don't anything about any of the other teams adding a scaling mechanism.

Scary pair-ups: 1501, 4103, 868, 1024, 1747, 135, and 4982
Solid picks: 461, 234, 1741
The ones left over you better take: 71, 1529, 2197, 3147, 3940, 5403

5484 could possible surprise.

My guess is that 71 may end up ranking first again, since they can facilitate a breach and capture with minimal help from alliance partners (They and 1747 are both great at this, which is why they ranked 1-2 at Perry).

Your list looks pretty accurate otherwise, but I would also add 3176 to the list of teams to look out for. They were the only successful Indiana team (from what I can tell) at defense, when they shut down 1747's high goals in the Walker Warren quarterfinals, and if they can maintain their defensive prowess, they will be high on the pick lists as well.

[bam-bam]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

My guess is that 71 may end up ranking first again, since they can facilitate a breach and capture with minimal help from alliance partners (They and 1747 are both great at this, which is why they ranked 1-2 at Perry).

Your list looks pretty accurate otherwise, but I would also add 3176 to the list of teams to look out for. They were the only successful Indiana team (from what I can tell) at defense, when they shut down 1747's high goals in the Walker Warren quarterfinals, and if they can maintain their defensive prowess, they will be high on the pick lists as well.

3176's lack of ball control is stopping me from putting them on my personal list, but I understand the reasoning why otherwise. They'd be a steal if they were left in the second round.

[carpedav000]

May be too early for some REALLY bold predictions, but here it goes:

1.) 71, 868, 6012
2.) 1501, 1747, 447
3.) 4103, 1741, 2197
4.) 1024, 4982, 3176
5.) 135, 461, 3180
6.) 3940, 292, 2171
7.) 3559, 1529, 45
8.) 234, 1720, 3147


QF 1 begins with the #1 seed setting the record score of the event against the #8 seed. In the second match, the #8 seed absolutely kills it and is able to edge out the #1 seed. In the third match, it seems as if the #1 seed is going to semifinals until 71 drops from the bar and rolls off the batter. #8 advances to semifinals.

QF 2 ends with the #4 seed going 2/2, with the #5 seed almost taking it to a third match. #4 advances to semifinals.

QF 3 begins with #6 upsetting #3 due to 2197 not making it to the batter, but they get it together and the #3 alliance wins their next 2 matches and almost tie the high score. #3 advances to semifinals.

QF 4 sees the #2 seed go 2/2 against the #7 seed, who put out all they had but came just short of getting the third match. #2 advances to semifinals.

In SF 1 the #4 seed shows just how awesome they are at putting up points, breaking the event high score and moving on to finals, and the #8 seed ain't even mad. #4 advances to finals.

SF 2 begins with the #2 seed absolutely wiping the floor with the #4 seed, but 1501's shooter jams and it has to be taken to a third match. This third match is almost as exciting as F 3 at Waterloo. The match begins with 1501 and 1747 both hitting their 20pt autonomous routines, but 447 gets their intake jammed in the low bar. Meanwhile, 4103 and 1741 both hit their 20pt autonomous routines that don't exist and 2197 hits their 10pt routine. The score going in to teleop is 42-50. Teleop sees 447 get unjammed and immediately begin scoring low goal and 2197 go over to play defense. The match goes on and ends with a TIE. #3 advances on auto points.

Finals sees 3176 with a cheesecake climber, but that climber is their undoing in the end. They slide off the batter in both matches leaving the #3 seed 2/2. #3 wins.


NOTE: I mean no offense to any teams in my predictions. It says REALLY bold for a reason

[logank013]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

My guess is that 71 may end up ranking first again, since they can facilitate a breach and capture with minimal help from alliance partners (They and 1747 are both great at this, which is why they ranked 1-2 at Perry).

Your list looks pretty accurate otherwise, but I would also add 3176 to the list of teams to look out for. They were the only successful Indiana team (from what I can tell) at defense, when they shut down 1747's high goals in the Walker Warren quarterfinals, and if they can maintain their defensive prowess, they will be high on the pick lists as well.

71 could end up first but so could so many others. The deal breaker at this competition isn't the ability to capture. I can bet that with the quality of teams at IN DCMP, almost 100% of matches will breach and near 75%+ will capture. Winning is far more important than ever at this event. Now 71's extra 10 points on the climber is helpful, but I'm betting that many good high goal shooters will be able to climb. I could see 1501 ranking really well because of all the high goals they can do in a match and the added climb ability. If 1024, 1747, or any other 4-5+ high goal a match robots have a climber, they should rank really well at this event too. Now a climber isn't a guaranteed win but those extra points help a lot. I'm curious to see if any other teams beside 1501 get a climber and high goal auto for IN DCMP. With that said, not to talk down about 71 because they have a really solid robot, but I'm not sure how much they will win with all the high goal shooters they have to go against at this event... Definitely bold prediction on my part. Will be interesting to see the rankings. IN is such an odd place because of our really successful capture and break rate. I bet that a lot of other places' ranks will be determined by team capture and breach rate and less about winning. But IN I bet will be determined in many ways by W-L-T.

[Theseusgoats]

My guesses for alliance selection are
1) 1747-1024-2197
2) 1501-4982-45
3) 868-4103-447
4) 135-4613147
5) 234-71-4580
6) 1741-3940-1018
7) 3947-1720-1529
8) 292-5403-5484

Semi-finals
- 1 and 5 face off and 2 and 3 face off

Finals
- 1 and 2 play and 2 somehow pulls an upset (even though it hurts me to say it)

[Theseusgoats]

Also, to add, I figured out that we really have a lot of pretty good high goal shooters
(In order)
1024
1747
1501
4982
868
461
135
4103
234
1741
1720

[Peyton Yeung]

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats

Also, to add, I figured out that we really have a lot of pretty good high goal shooters
(In order)
1024
1747
1501
4982
868
135
4103
234
1741
1720

We feel so left out...

[Theseusgoats]

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung

We feel so left out...

Apologizies, of course you guys are included.

[logank013]

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats

Also, to add, I figured out that we really have a lot of pretty good high goal shooters
(In order)
1024
1747
1501
4982
868
461
135
4103
234
1741
1720

Just thinking about it, I think I've seen every team in that list except 1720 do 5 high goals or more in at least 1 match. Just to think... That's Indiana right there. That's 10 of 49 teams. What other places can say that 20% of their teams have done 5 high goals in a match before? That's pretty impressive.