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Scouting at World Championship

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I know many teams like to build their own scouting systems and in most cases the "forms" that the scouters fill during each match are sent via wifi. As you all know the wifi access is blocked at the dome and I was wondering how other teams overcome this problem?
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

Our scouting app uses bluetooth to send the data.
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

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the "forms" that the scouters fill during each match are sent via wifi.
Wifi is not allowed in the stands at any event. Our team uses wired networking for scouting, but we haven't been to CMP since we started this scouting method. The trick is finding power outlets.
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

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Re: Scouting at World Championship

We do paper + one LTE station to send the data online, then we download the data in the tableau station in the pit.
We are happy with our system, but in the CMP we won't be able to have a scouting team, due to costs traveling from brazil, we probably will have only 5~8 members total.
Does anyone already tried to scout trought the webcasts or with the archived regional matches? I know that this wont be good and accurate as scouting from stands, but may worth and we are considering. Thanks
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

Our most reliable scouting systems always involved paper scouting sheets and manually entering the data into a spreadhseet.

It isn't the most efficient way to scout, but it has very few points of failure.
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

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Wifi is not allowed in the stands at any event. Our team uses wired networking for scouting, but we haven't been to CMP since we started this scouting method. The trick is finding power outlets.
Could you tell me more about this method? How does the scouters send their data?
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

6 laptops for collecting data, one desktop server as the web page host, and physical ethernet cables tying them all together. There is one 8 port network switch in the middle.

Personally, i think paper and pencil with data entry at the end of the day is the way to go, but the all computer method can be done with enough extension cords and patience.
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

We get past the Wi-Fi issue by using a carrier data plan. We have a tablet with data access for each scout. Any device, such as a personal phone, could also be used so long as it has data. Each scout uses a Google form in which they enter team number, match number, and match data. Each submission ends up in a Google spreadsheet. Time we would use entering data at the end of the day becomes time we can use to analyze the data. In the end we achieve the same goal as if we did paper scouting, which we did for two years, just with a little less time and hassle. I also agree with the many voices here on CD that have said not to discount paper scouting. It can be extremely effective if your scouting team has an organized process and forms. Just my 2 cents, hope it helps.
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

Use team 2729 android app solution. Our app system uses 2 android apps to scout and form strategies, one being used by the scouter for data, generating a QR code at the end and the other used to scan and perform data analysis. Our system does not require wifi as we use a camera for data transfer

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Last year, we used Android tablets with micro SD cards. The app would output a CSV (comma separated value) file. A CSV is basically a text file with different values separated by commas or tabs. For example, if you were collecting team number, alliance, and points total (just for example) the file would say something like "1836,blue,120" or "1836 blue 120".

We would grab the files off the SD cards and put them on one central computer. You can then drag the files into an Excel document and it is automatically sorted in to the columns based on the commas. Learn more here.

This year, we decided to move away from the digital scouting and go back to paper because we found that it was more reliable to promoted more detailed data collection -- team members took it much more seriously when they actually had to actively fill in "No" or "0" rather than just selecting a box. This way, it is just as easy to collect accurate data.
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

It wasn't our original plan but since we scout with 6 chromebooks, we wanted to have a wired data network. That didn't work so we transfer data via flash drives. Simple but affective.
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Re: Scouting at World Championship

Our team has the scouters fill in circles on scan-tron sheets which then go through a scanner onto an excel spreadsheet. The only time our lead scout needs to manually do something is whenever there are comments made on the sheets by the scouters.
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Our team logs in our data on excel and transfers and compiles data through USB sticks
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Does anyone have any tips on how to send scouting data to the drive team in the pits?
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