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Re: Compressed air for rapidly cooling motors?

First off, Aren Hill deserves all credit for this idea.

Basically, the mounting holes for a CIM type motor are the only access points to the inside of the motor. For reasons described earlier cooling is much more effective when air is forced directly past the armature. When you put 2 and 2 together you end up with hollow fasteners. I'll leave the rest as an exercise to the reader.

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Re: Compressed air for rapidly cooling motors?

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First off, Aren Hill deserves all credit for this idea.

Basically, the mounting holes for a CIM type motor are the only access points to the inside of the motor. For reasons described earlier cooling is much more effective when air is forced directly past the armature. When you put 2 and 2 together you end up with hollow fasteners. I'll leave the rest as an exercise to the reader.

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If you mean replacing the bolts holding the motor together with different ones... I would think this is a violation of R30:

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The integral mechanical and electrical system of any motor must not be modified.
Those bolts are pretty integral to the mechanical system of the robot... without them the whole thing falls apart and stops working!
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If you mean replacing the bolts holding the motor together with different ones... I would think this is a violation of R30:



Those bolts are pretty integral to the mechanical system of the robot... without them the whole thing falls apart and stops working!
Nope, a CIM motor has two openings in it that are entirely legal to blow air into without modifications.

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Nope, a CIM motor has two openings in it that are entirely legal to blow air into without modifications.
Very cool, Aren! 91979A605 or something similar?
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Very cool, Aren! 91979A605 or something similar?
Yup, you can even get 10-32 to 1/4" tube push to connect fittings to make it easier to hook up air.

Feel free to come by 1296 at champs, we'll also be running it.

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Yup, you can even get 10-32 to 1/4" tube push to connect fittings to make it easier to hook up air.

Feel free to come by 1296 at champs, we'll also be running it.

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So is the air actually flowing during a match or only being hooked up afterwards between matches?
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So is the air actually flowing during a match or only being hooked up afterwards between matches?
Between.

Nothing hooked up to the robots pneumatics system.
It's mainly about air flow, and the robot system isn't the greatest for that anyway.

The testing I did on some of this helped lead to motors.VEX.com
Mainly the "peak power duration test"

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