Championship Waitlist

[jkelleyrtp]

We got RAS at our regional last year and are on this year's wait list. Would we have 5/6 tickets? What are the chances?

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by jkelleyrtp

We got RAS at our regional last year and are on this year's wait list. Would we have 5/6 tickets? What are the chances?

You would have one ticket. You get 2016-2015(last year you attended the championship). We still cannot tell you the chances because we do not know how many teams are on the wait list and how many tickets each of them receive.

[logank013]

Current Amount of teams qualified to worlds (on the Worlds list here): 420
Teams Left to send:
-Peachtree: 12
-Michigan: 76
-MAR: 22
-NE: 34
-IN: 9
Total: 573

Total at worlds: 600
Spots left for waitlist: 600-573 = 27

So based on my calculations, we should have 27 more spots (at least) to raffle off to the waitlist. I'm asking if anyone knows why FIRST hasn't raffled off these 27 spots yet. Thank you.

Edit: As I thought about this, is this so less teams that will qualify get waitlisted? For instance, 1024 is ahead by a lot in IN. Odds are, they just need to show up and rank well in qualifications and they secure a spot for themselves in the "next-in" teams. Is this to prevent good teams like 1024 getting the waitlist spot? So is that why they are waiting until after week 7 events to do the rest of the waitlist teams? Thanks again.

[MechEng83]

Originally Posted by logank013

Current Amount of teams qualified to worlds (on the Worlds list here): 420
Teams Left to send:
-Peachtree: 12
-Michigan: 76
-MAR: 22
-NE: 34
-IN: 12
Total: 576

Total at worlds: 608
Spots left for waitlist: 608-576 = 32

So based on my calculations, we should have 32 more spots (at least) to raffle off to the waitlist. I'm asking if anyone knows why FIRST hasn't raffled off these 32 spots yet. Thank you.

Edit: As I thought about this, is this so less teams that will qualify get waitlisted? For instance, 1024 is ahead by a lot in IN. Odds are, they just need to show up and rank well in qualifications and they secure a spot for themselves in the "next-in" teams. Is this to prevent good teams like 1024 getting the waitlist spot? So is that why they are waiting until after week 7 events to do the rest of the waitlist teams? Thanks again.

Several of your numbers aren't quite correct.

I believe the target is 600 teams. There were 608 last year due to a number of circumstances. I don't know an official number, so FIRST could potentially do whatever they want.

Indiana has 9 spots, not 12.

The 420 number includes teams from districts that have already qualified, for example, 868 is already registered, but they're taking one of the 9 Indiana spots, so there is actually another waitlist spot opened up for that.

The calculation becomes much harder to know how many teams, and I'm pretty sure there hasn't been an official decree of "xxx number of teams, exactly" to allow for some wiggle room.

I doubt FIRST is not releasing waitlist spots to see if a "good team" qualifies on their own. They have provisions in districts to give the waitlist spot for an in-district qualifying team to the next-in-line team. I know this because we got 135's waitlist spot last year. There isn't a reason to wait to hand those out.

[logank013]

Originally Posted by MechEng83

Several of your numbers aren't quite correct.

I believe the target is 600 teams. There were 608 last year due to a number of circumstances. I don't know an official number, so FIRST could potentially do whatever they want.

Indiana has 9 spots, not 12.

The 420 number includes teams from districts that have already qualified, for example, 868 is already registered, but they're taking one of the 9 Indiana spots, so there is actually another waitlist spot opened up for that.

The calculation becomes much harder to know how many teams, and I'm pretty sure there hasn't been an official decree of "xxx number of teams, exactly" to allow for some wiggle room.

I doubt FIRST is not releasing waitlist spots to see if a "good team" qualifies on their own. They have provisions in districts to give the waitlist spot for an in-district qualifying team to the next-in-line team. I know this because we got 135's waitlist spot last year. There isn't a reason to wait to hand those out.

Oops. Sorry. I'm not sure why I put down IN having 12 spots. I've been fretting about the fact we only have 9 spots for the past few weeks. Haha. But still, there are 27 spots to give away at least right? So why aren't those being given away yet?

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by MechEng83

Indiana has 9 spots, not 12.

Also, MAR only has 19 spots left to give out this weekend, not 22 (11, 1676, and 2590 have already qualified).

[Anthony Galea]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Also, MAR only has 19 spots left to give out this weekend, not 22 (11, 1676, and 2590 have already qualified).

And FiM has two less spots from 910 and 245 qualifying at WEGLR and Queen City, respectively.

[forbes]

Does anyone know how 5830 (Chesapeake district) or 4534 (North Carolina district) qualified? I don't think it's wait list (especially since 5830 is a rookie), but I don't see any other reason.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by forbes

Does anyone know how 5830 (Chesapeake district) or 4534 (North Carolina district) qualified? I don't think it's wait list (especially since 5830 is a rookie), but I don't see any other reason.

5830 was the RAS at CHCMP.

[forbes]

Originally Posted by logank013

Teams Left to send:
-Peachtree: 12
-Michigan: 76
-MAR: 22
-NE: 34
-IN: 9
Total: 573

Total at worlds: 600
Spots left for waitlist: 600-573 = 27

Originally Posted by Hallry

Also, MAR only has 19 spots left to give out this weekend, not 22 (11, 1676, and 2590 have already qualified).

Originally Posted by 3175student17

And FiM has two less spots from 910 and 245 qualifying at WEGLR and Queen City, respectively.

Accounting for the other districts as well, here is an updated total:
-Peachtree: 11 of 12
-Michigan: 74 of 76
-MAR: 19 of 22
-NE: 33 of 34
-IN: 8 of 9
Total left to send: 145
Total spots taken: 565
Total spots remaining: 35

[forbes]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

5830 was the RAS at CHCMP.

Thanks, and 4534 won Engineering Inspiration at nccmp.

[Sperkowsky]

I wonder why first is waiting to distribute the last 30 or so spots. The longer the wait the harder it is for teams.

[SenorZ]

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

I wonder why first is waiting to distribute the last 30 or so spots. The longer the wait the harder it is for teams.

They may have already notified teams they have a wait list spot. But they the team gets a day to decide and decline. If all thirty spots get offered and declined over and over, the registered team list stays the same while the date keeps rollin' on.

[logank013]

Originally Posted by forbes

Accounting for the other districts as well, here is an updated total:
-Peachtree: 11 of 12
-Michigan: 74 of 76
-MAR: 19 of 22
-NE: 33 of 34
-IN: 8 of 9
Total left to send: 145
Total spots taken: 565
Total spots remaining: 35

Thanks so much! I totally forgot about the district teams that already qualified via regionals. All in all, they still have pretty big amount of wait list spots to give out.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by 3175student17

And FiM has two less spots from 910 and 245 qualifying at WEGLR and Queen City, respectively.

You forgot 141 won EI in South Florida.