Split Champs in '17 and '18

[bdaroz]

In the press release announcing Qualcomm's sponsorship FIRST has confirmed multiple Championship events starting in 2017:

Save the date! The FIRST Championship will be held in:

Houston April 19-22, 2017 and St. Louis April 26-29, 2017 | Houston April 18-21, 2018 and Detroit April 25-28, 2018

Anyone have any information on how this will actually work?

[CalTran]

You have one championship in Houston, one in St. Louis. Then at the end of it all you now have 6 world champions, and assumedly 2 CCA teams.

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by CalTran

You have one championship in Houston, one in St. Louis. Then at the end of it all you now have 6 world champions, and assumedly 2 CCA teams.

8* world champions

[kgzak]

Originally Posted by CalTran

You have one championship in Houston, one in St. Louis. Then at the end of it all you now have 6 world champions, and assumedly 2 CCA teams.

8 world champs if they continue the 4 alliance elims.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by CalTran

You have one championship in Houston, one in St. Louis. Then at the end of it all you now have 6 world champions, and assumedly 2 CCA teams.

8 world champions assuming the alliance structure stays the same.

Edit: wow I got beaten by 2 people...

[Kevin Sevcik]

Champs webpage has better info:
2017 and Beyond

Highlights:
Champs will be on subsequent weekends, Houston then STL, Houston then Detroit. (First Champs, best Champs. (Also, poor Al, Jess, MCs, etc.))
This is the plan from 2017 - 2020.
No details on regional split or anything like that. One presumes FiM teams and others with DCMPs in Week 7 likely won't be heading to Houston Champs in Week 8. Maybe HQ is going to compress some of the regions schedules to get them into the Houston Champs.

[TDav540]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

Champs webpage has better info:
2017 and Beyond

Highlights:
Champs will be on subsequent weekends, Houston then STL, Houston then Detroit. (First Champs, best Champs. (Also, poor Al, Jess, MCs, etc.))
This is the plan from 2017 - 2020.
No details on regional split or anything like that. One presumes FiM teams and others with DCMPs in Week 7 likely won't be heading to Houston Champs in Week 8. Maybe HQ is going to compress some of the regions schedules to get them into the Houston Champs.

It's certainly possible, but I think they decide to structure it in such a way that teams slated to go to Houston complete their cycles by Week 6, and Week 7 groups schedule to go to Detroit/St. Louis. I'm sure we'll something about it this summer though.

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

Champs webpage has better info:
2017 and Beyond

Highlights:
Champs will be on subsequent weekends, Houston then STL, Houston then Detroit. (First Champs, best Champs. (Also, poor Al, Jess, MCs, etc.))
This is the plan from 2017 - 2020.
No details on regional split or anything like that. One presumes FiM teams and others with DCMPs in Week 7 likely won't be heading to Houston Champs in Week 8. Maybe HQ is going to compress some of the regions schedules to get them into the Houston Champs.

The real conflict is with teams that do VEX...

[JohnBoucher]

How about split dates at the same venue?

Bring half the teams come in Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. Have the winners stay. Bring in the other half Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

Playoffs on Saturday. One Woodie Flowers and Chairman's winners. One winning alliance.

• Only one setup needed.
• Given a nice venue, volunteers may stay the week. (Disney come to mind)
• No arguing who the real champ is.

Just Saying........

[George A.]

Originally Posted by JohnBoucher

How about split dates at the same venue?

Bring half the teams come in Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. Have the winners stay. Bring in the other half Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

Playoffs on Saturday. One Woodie Flowers and Chairman's winners. One winning alliance.

• Only one setup needed.
• Given a nice venue, volunteers may stay the week. (Disney come to mind)
• No arguing who the real champ is.

Just Saying........

I would absolutely be in favor of this, however there are a few logistical issues that might be difficult to overcome.

Airfare for the winning team from the first half would be a nightmare. Teams wouldn't know if they have to hold over their flights until the last day and getting them reworked at the last minute seems all but impossible.

Asking those same students to take more time off of school again at the last minute prolly wouldn't fly with the administration.

Also getting volunteers who would be able to give the full week of time needed would be a daunting task in and of itself.

I do think that maybe something should be done so that the 2 winning alliances meet up at some point to determine an overall champion.

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by JohnSchneider

The real conflict is with teams that do VEX...

This was my initial reaction last year.

Seems like a shot taken at Vex Worlds to schedule both late-April weekends for Half Champs.

-Mike

[dodar]

Originally Posted by JohnBoucher

How about split dates at the same venue?

Bring half the teams come in Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. Have the winners stay. Bring in the other half Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

Playoffs on Saturday. One Woodie Flowers and Chairman's winners. One winning alliance.

• Only one setup needed.
• Given a nice venue, volunteers may stay the week. (Disney come to mind)
• No arguing who the real champ is.

Just Saying........

So the first set of winners have to miss more work, more school, and pay more money than the 2nd set of teams?

[TDav540]

Originally Posted by George A.

I would absolutely be in favor of this, however there are a few logistical issues that might be difficult to overcome.

Airfare for the winning team from the first half would be a nightmare. Teams wouldn't know if they have to hold over their flights until the last day and getting them reworked at the last minute seems all but impossible.

Asking those same students to take more time off of school again at the last minute prolly wouldn't fly with the administration.

Also getting volunteers who would be able to give the full week of time needed would be a daunting task in and of itself.

I do think that maybe something should be done so that the 2 winning alliances meet up at some point to determine an overall champion.

This seems like something for IRI to help with.....

[Drakxii]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

Champs webpage has better info:
2017 and Beyond

Highlights:
Champs will be on subsequent weekends, Houston then STL, Houston then Detroit. (First Champs, best Champs. (Also, poor Al, Jess, MCs, etc.))
This is the plan from 2017 - 2020.
No details on regional split or anything like that. One presumes FiM teams and others with DCMPs in Week 7 likely won't be heading to Houston Champs in Week 8. Maybe HQ is going to compress some of the regions schedules to get them into the Houston Champs.

Last we have heard anything about how the venue assignment will happen was on March 4th.

http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...s-march-4-2016

So either they are waiting to announce after champs (or during like they did with the split) or something went awry.

[logank013]

With 800 teams at two champs locations, I assume it will be 400 at each. In total, will they have 8 divisions with 100 each? or 16 with 50 each? or 12 with 67ish each? or another split up? Does anyone know for sure? thanks.