Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?

[the_godfaubel]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it will happen (#BoldPredictions). Everyone will presumably take the best available shooter in the first, thus leaving the defensive bots for the 2nd and/or 3rd round of selections. If 8 takes the best available shooter, they also get first dibs on the defensive bots. They get the best defensive bot there is and one that can probably climb, reliably cross 1 or 2 classes of defenses in autonomous, and potentially score in auto. Assuming the 8th alliance captain is a somewhat reliable shooter, that's a pretty dangerous alliance. If it's the right alliance, I could see 180-210 points being scored, which is more than enough to beat a #1 alliance.

Plus, declined alliances happen and might lead to a really good team being the 8th alliance captain.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Originally Posted by the_godfaubel

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it will happen (#BoldPredictions). Everyone will presumably take the best available shooter in the first, thus leaving the defensive bots for the 2nd and/or 3rd round of selections. If 8 takes the best available shooter, they also get first dibs on the defensive bots. They get the best defensive bot there is and one that can probably climb, reliably cross 1 or 2 classes of defenses in autonomous, and potentially score in auto. Assuming the 8th alliance captain is a somewhat reliable shooter, that's a pretty dangerous alliance. If it's the right alliance, I could see 180-210 points being scored, which is more than enough to beat a #1 alliance.

Plus, declined alliances happen and might lead to a really good team being the 8th alliance captain.

The opposite could definitely hold true as well though. Some divisions may be really deep or alliances scout completely incorrectly and 1st alliance ends up getting a solid shooter as their second pick. The two best shooters(probably unblockable) in the division plus one of the best shooters as a third robot. Not to mention they would all be solid drivers and I'm not sure there is any stopping that kind of alliance no matter how good the defense may be. Alliances like these have happened plenty of times and went all the way before as well.

[jojoguy10]

Note: I'm going to try to write this without tooting my team's horn

We were the 8th seed alliance at PNW DCMPs, and we beat the 1st seed alliance (like The other Gabe said in the 2nd post in this thread). We did it with very brutal defense. The other alliance had a good high goal shooter, a fast low goal shooter, and their own defense bot. Our team decided to be the defense bot and our driver is very good (in my opinion).

I think it could happen at Champs, but only if there is an amazing defense bot, and if that alliance can score faster than the other alliance (even while under defense).

[the_godfaubel]

Originally Posted by the_godfaubel

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it will happen (#BoldPredictions).

*Mic drop*

Also made it to Einstein

[Hadi379]

Yes, the 2016 Curie #8 Alliance won their division, knocking off the #1 seed in the quarterfinals.

[Dan Petrovic]

Originally Posted by Hadi379

Yes, the 2016 Curie #8 Alliance won their division, knocking off the #1 seed in the quarterfinals.

Seriously, congratulations. I saw some of your team members celebrating in the pit after the finals matches and I was so happy for you guys. I so wish that could have been us but you guys definitely had the better alliance.

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Dan Petrovic

Seriously, congratulations. I saw some of your team members celebrating in the pit after the finals matches and I was so happy for you guys. I so wish that could have been us but you guys definitely had the better alliance.

In case Hadi is confused...

You saw one of 379's team members celebrating along with a Team 48 senior student in a Team 379 hoodie. NEOFRA represent.

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by Hadi379

Yes, the 2016 Curie #8 Alliance won their division, knocking off the #1 seed in the quarterfinals.

And #7 knocked off the #1 in Newton headed by the #1 ranked team (254) in the biggest single upset of the entire tournament. It points out the value of taking advantage of opportunities when they are handed to you.

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad

And #7 knocked off the #1 in Newton headed by the #1 ranked team (254) in the biggest single upset of the entire tournament. It points out the value of taking advantage of opportunities when they are handed to you.

While mostly true, 1241 was the captain, not 254.

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by CalTran

While mostly true, 1241 was the captain, not 254.

Right "headed" should have been "included"...

[george.tan]

Originally Posted by Hadi379

Yes, the 2016 Curie #8 Alliance won their division, knocking off the #1 seed in the quarterfinals.

The entire Curie Field is a big upset!

Quarterfinals 5, 6, 7 and 8 alliances took out 1, 2, 3 and 4.
Semifinals 7 and 8 took out 5 and 6.
Finals 8 took out 7 and went on to Einstein.