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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
While it is always difficult for a #8 seed to knock off the #1 seed (it is, after all, meant to be that way...), I'd argue that it is MORE likely to happen at Championships than in a regional due to the depth of outstanding teams.
If there are only a half-dozen 'powerhouse' teams at a regional, they're all gone by the time the fourth or fifth alliance gets to choose their first pick, but if you've got a couple dozen awesome machines in a division, then the #8 captain will have plenty to choose from. I'll repeat however... not easy. Just, perhaps, easier. Jason |
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
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With 8 divisions and the #1 seed getting to pick their back up first I'm not sure that the depth of championship divisions is what it was in years past, or the 8th alliance can pick a strong enough team from that position. I think the best chance is a team that people don't want to play with seeding #1. |
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It happened last year, see above, 2014, 2012, 2009*, and 2007* twice. With 8 divisions and 8 #1 seeds I would say the odds are pretty good it happens again. *Fun fact, 79 upset #1 seeds twice while I was a student on the team, 2007 and 2009. |
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
The Poofs definitely had every single right to be the #1 seed last year, and were more knocked out by incredibly ill timed visits from Murphy than anything.
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
Worked out pretty well for them in 2014...
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Just citing it as a good example that regardless of seed anything can happen at champs. |
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
It wasn't Murphy, it was the Carson curse.
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
In regards to the op, I can see this being valid, the 8th seed gets a more level distribution of robot ability available to them, and having solid picks for all the members of an alliance makes a difference. Depending on the depth of the division, and the luck of the eighth seed it certainly is possible. An example of this that I enjoy is 2012 Galileo quarters.
8 takes 1 in three matches. http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2012gal_qf1m1 http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2012gal_qf1m2 http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2012gal_qf1m3 Teams that scout effectively at champs are going to have a huge upper hand. There are going to be a lot of robots that go under the radar, and in this year more than others I believe there will be upsets at champs. |
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
I think I smell it too.. some scorched earth
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
If the 16th alliance can knock out the 1st alliance at the FIM District Championship, anything can happen. This game is one that a single robot cannot win by itself. The entire alliance needs to be working together to do well. If you put together the most well rounded alliance, upsets won't be uncommon.
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
During my meeting with alliance captains, I use an example to explain how red/blue bumpers move through the brackets. If Alliance 8 (16 at MSC) should happen to beat Alliance 1, the upset winners "inherit" the red bumper color. I swear, I was not being prophetic!
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Re: Can a 8th seed knock off a 1st seed at champs?
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