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Re: Alliance Request

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Originally Posted by Citrus Dad View Post
Sadly this is true. After an experience few years ago watching a 2nd year team fumble through it's first experience as an alliance captain, I now go around and check with the newer teams that might be alliance captains. At SVR I informed one team on Sat morning that they might be a captain and they were shocked. Fortunately they had a mentor team they could get scouting data from (and had a pretty good alliance.) I'll work with those teams to help them develop a pick list if they're unprepared.

So my suggestion is that if you're just trying to get onto an alliance (which is an accomplishment in itself), you might approach those younger teams about sharing your scouting data if you think that you might be a first pick for them (or a 2nd pick of the 8th or 7th alliance).

To be honest you're not going to influence the draft lists for the first 2 to 5 captains by talking to them. They'll rely on their own info sources.

"you're not going to influence the draft lists for the first 2 to 5 captains by talking to them"

Actually that is not entirely true... we were Captain #2 and had a team approach us morning of day 2 (of course we had our first pick locked in) but they were pinning for our second pick. They reminded me of how we played well together put up over 100 and the fact they raised from mid-30's to high teens with an explanation. They were not on my top 20 list at all but that conversation , a good explanation and a trip to meet the team put them back on it. Plus the belief I felt in the kid who approached us.

When it came time to pick they were already selected but they would have been our pick had they not been selected (I told them they likely would be as high teen ) meanwhile both of us on our alliance already agreed to pick them based on their second day performance and after discussing with our partner. So I would not say blanket captains 1-5 are so locked in they won't listen. We did and we have a fine scouting department with a deep enough list, never hurts to get more details we may have missed. Sometimes even good scouts can miss relevant info....and picking past 20 I can see where a team may be able to talk their way in to be the selection in the 20-24 range.

I know our pick list in CVR had about eight solid picks, the rest were not as solid and the ones towards the end "needed work" so the ones at the end of my our list were close to those not on it. That is where I believe tail end selections can work their way in onto pick lists sometimes especially if they have solid reasons.
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