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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

Sorry! Some wheels will be for driving some for moving an arm-like body part.
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

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Sorry! Some wheels will be for driving some for moving an arm-like body part.
Way too fast. As I noted in my edit, your theoretical top speed is 95 ft/second on driving, and you really don't want to know how hard you'll hit with an arm in motion...

I think you need the JVN Calculator (might be a hair out of date, but it'll have the CIM in there).
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

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I think you need the JVN Calculator (might be a hair out of date, but it'll have the CIM in there).
Yep the JVN calculator is what you want, it'll help you work out what motors and what gearing to use to drive your robot and also the motor and gearing required to move the robot arm.

JVN released an updated calculator for 2016: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/3188, but the most likely won't make a difference for this purpose
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

Alright everybody I've figured it out with the gearboxes and motors.

For the drivetrain I'm going to use
http://www.andymark.com/Motor-p/am-0912.htm?CartID=8
this motor and
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3105.htm?CartID=7
this gearbox.

For an "arm-like" function I'm going to use
http://www.andymark.com/Motor-p/am-0255.htm?CartID=10
this motor and
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3106.htm?CartID=9
this gearbox.

Thanks for all the help!
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

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Alright everybody I've figured it out with the gearboxes and motors.

For the drivetrain I'm going to use
http://www.andymark.com/Motor-p/am-0912.htm?CartID=8
this motor and
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3105.htm?CartID=7
this gearbox.

For an "arm-like" function I'm going to use
http://www.andymark.com/Motor-p/am-0255.htm?CartID=10
this motor and
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3106.htm?CartID=9
this gearbox.

Thanks for all the help!
I think you've got a scale issue. The 9015 motor is about the size of a prescription bottle, while the CIM is about the size of a Coke can. Neither was made with the Neverest gearboxes in mind, and I'd be shocked if a Neverest gearbox could withstand what a CIM puts out for any length of time. (We use 2-6 of those to drive 150-pound robots.)

What size of robot are you looking to build, either in dimensions or weight? What, if anything, does the arm have to lift? That will help us get you in the right direction.
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

The whole robot is going to be about 3 feet tall and a foot and a half wide and long. The whole thing made of aluminum (idk how much that would weigh). And the arm would have to move nothing but itself. I will have 4 motors for the drivetrain and one for each arm.
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

If you upload a sketch of what you are looking to do we may be able to better help you
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

I don't think you should spend money on motors until you've done the calculations for what you actually need.

Since you haven't given any requirements, we can only help you find components that are compatible with each other.
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

You may want to consider starting smaller in case something doesn't go the right way. Gearboxes especially can run hundreds of dollars even for just a drivetrain and arm. Smaller also lets you use hobby servos for rotation.
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

We will need more information to help you. To start what is this for? Are you part of a first team? What kind of "arm" are you talking about? How many degrees of freedom is the arm going to have? What does this arm need to do? How are you manufacturing this robot you mentioned aluminum but are you going to be using sheet metal, tubing, extrusion ect? What exactly is your budget for the entire project? Do you have a control system in mind? What surface will this robot be driving on?

I think you should brush up on some basic robotics knowledge before undertaking this project. If you continue your chances of success are a shot in the dark which is not at all what you want especially if you are on a tight budget.
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

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The whole robot is going to be about 3 feet tall and a foot and a half wide and long. The whole thing made of aluminum (idk how much that would weigh). And the arm would have to move nothing but itself. I will have 4 motors for the drivetrain and one for each arm.
This helps!

That's more or less the size class of a FIRST Tech Challenge robot (their size limit is 18" cubed). That says to me that a NeveRest motor is probably the scale to be using for this. Not that you can't use a CIM or other motors, but they're probably going to be overkill.

I can't say for certain without seeing the design, but I'd bet a few judiciously-used NeveRest motors and some 1/16" wall aluminum shapes (okay, maybe a little 1/8" in high-load areas) would get you pretty far.
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Re: How do I hook up the motors to the wheels?

I think if you have an FRC team near you, you should go visit them and see if they'll let you just pick through their boxes and see what they're willing to give you.

My team still has boxes of mismatched transmissions, Power Wheels transmissions and old motors that I'd never put on a competition robot, etc. If I knew a kid was going to actually use them, I'd be pleased to give them away.

The mentors and seasoned members can give you advice too. Way better in person than on CD.

Good Luck!
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