4 Team Matches for Championship

[howellroy]

So I saw that the Championship will be 4 team matches. How does that work, do all 4 teams play or does 3 play then what happens to the 4th? We are new to the championship and I really am curious about these things.

[Brian Maher]

Originally Posted by howellroy

So I saw that the Championship will be 4 team matches. How does that work, do all 4 teams play or does 3 play then what happens to the 4th? We are new to the championship and I really am curious about these things.

With four team alliances, only three play at once. Alliances are free to field any combination of three robots they please. This allows the fourth robot to function as a backup or an alternate strategy.

[Bob Steele]

All ELIMINATION Alliances will be composed of 4 teams.
The Alliances are free to play any 3 of the 4 teams at any given time.
There are no Back Up robots.... and if a given team has to sit out a match because of a mechanical or technical issue the 4th robot can come in and the team sitting out can still come back and continue to play.

During Qualifications the alliances have the normal 3 teams on the field.

When alliances are picked there are 4 teams picked by each alliance.

[Hakiobo]

Originally Posted by Bob Steele

All ELIMINATION Alliances will be composed of 4 teams.
The Alliances are free to play any 3 of the 4 teams at any given time.
There are no Back Up robots.... and if a given team has to sit out a match because of a mechanical or technical issue the 4th robot can come in and the team sitting out can still come back and continue to play.

During Qualifications the alliances have the normal 3 teams on the field.

When alliances are picked there are 4 teams picked by each alliance.

What is the order for picking the 4th bot in the alliance?

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[Wayne TenBrink]

It would be cool if they kept normal 3 team alliances during division playoffs and then let the winning alliance pick any team from their division as the "backup" robot for Einstein. That would create some super alliances consisting of the best that the division had to offer.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by Hakiobo

What is the order for picking the 4th bot in the alliance?

1st to 8th

[howellroy]

That makes sense, I was curious because a 4 team qualification alliance could cause some issues because of the rotating alliances and a weaker team could get pushed aside. During elimination a 4 team alliance is great gives more teams a chance to play and we used it once during a regional elimination to put a better fresh team in because another had taken a beaten the previous match. It proved a wise decision because we crushed the other alliance to move to the finals. I was concerned about the qualification matches because it could get a bit snarky and contentious before the matches.

[MooreteP]

Originally Posted by Bob Steele

All ELIMINATION Alliances will be composed of 4 teams.

You're just saying ELIMINATION's to make me
Like I tell my students. Read the manual.

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

You're just saying ELIMINATION's to make me
Like I tell my students. Read the manual.

Er, is there really that much of a difference between calling them Elims and Playoffs?

[bcampbell]

It is important to note that traditionally there are 12 players in the castle per alliance (4 for each team) but in eliminations at champs, a representative from the team not in the lineup but on your alliance is allowed in the castle. Which is essentially another coach during eliminations.

[Bob Steele]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

You're just saying ELIMINATION's to make me
Like I tell my students. Read the manual.

I understand what you are saying but in practical use the term is used all of the time and I am afraid it is something that will never stop. Every one understands what is being referred to and that is the point of communication.

I don't need to read the manual.

lighten up Francis...

:0)

[MooreteP]

Originally Posted by Bob Steele

I understand what you are saying but in practical use the term is used all of the time and I am afraid it is something that will never stop. Every one understands what is being referred to and that is the point of communication.

I don't need to read the manual.

lighten up Francis...

:0)

See you at the Nationals.

[Citrus Dad]

I expect this year to see 4th robots playing more in the elimination rounds.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by CalTran

Er, is there really that much of a difference between calling them Elims and Playoffs?

There are two reasons to use the term playoffs instead of elims (or eliminations).

1. Actually using the official term. This prevents confusion if a newer member sees the term elims and doesn't know what it is. It also allows the search function on CD to find the relevant threads.
2. Teams that are knocked out are not eliminated from winning awards. Using the term playoff prevents us from confusing new people to the community or spectators.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

See you at the Nationals.

See the difference is that using the term nationals is offensive to every single team outside the United States whereas using the term eliminations isn't justifiably offensive to anyone. It's like using boulders and balls when describing this years game piece. Everyone knows what you are talking about no matter which one you use and nobody is offended by it.