Championship Waitlist

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by dmsinucity

Why would a team be dropped off the list?

Only if they declined( to my knowledge). Or if FIRST made a mistake.

[Jack S.]

I feel like FIRST is cutting it a little close with their plan to release divisions AND schedules tomorrow. Perhaps it's just me but I think a lot of these "add, wait 24 hours, drop, repeat" slowdowns could be avoided if FIRST were to send out a refresher email to all the waitlist teams perhaps over last weekend saying "hey, we know you're signed up for the waitlist, but please reply if your team would actually be able to attend at this late hour" and adjust the list accordingly.

All this adding and dropping from the list is agonizing. I know my team doesn't really have the best chances of making the list, but hey, what else am I going to do with the week off from school due to the entire city flooding?

[Doug G]

IIRC... they have released divisions in the past and still made minor adds/dels to the team lists without changing who is already in each division.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Doug G

IIRC... they have released divisions in the past and still made minor adds/dels to the team lists without changing who is already in each division.

Correct. This happened last year I believe.

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by Doug G

IIRC... they have released divisions in the past and still made minor adds/dels to the team lists without changing who is already in each division.

Originally Posted by Hallry

Correct. This happened last year I believe.

Correct, but the preliminary match schedules have never before been published on the same day divisions are released. Last year divisions were announced on Wednesday, but the match schedules came out on Friday, which allowed two days for changes to be made to the divisions before generating schedules.

[Joe Johnson]

Does anyone know if FIRST plans to have 76 teams per division as they did last year or if they plan to have just 75 (i.e. these 600 teams are the teams with possible drops/adds as they or is FIRST sitting on 8 more golden tickets they haven't yet put on the list just yet)?

Overclocked is still hoping against hope to get an invite and it feels less unseemly to hope for a newly opened slot than to hope one of the teams on the list has to drop out...

Dr. Joe J.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson

Does anyone know if FIRST plans to have 76 teams per division as they did last year or if they plan to have just 75 (i.e. these 600 teams are the teams with possible drops/adds as they or is FIRST sitting on 8 more golden tickets they haven't yet put on the list just yet)?

Overclocked is still hoping against hope to get an invite and it feels less unseemly to hope for a newly opened slot than to hope one of the teams on the list has to drop out...

Dr. Joe J.

I have not seen an official answer but all signs I have seen point to 75 teams per division.

[generaldgibson]

Where does one view the teams that are currently registered for Championship?

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by generaldgibson

Where does one view the teams that are currently registered for Championship?

frclinks.com/e/cmp

[Joe Johnson]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

I have not seen an official answer but all signs I have seen point to 75 teams per division.

I don't remember but I think that FIRST had shown 600 slots basically until they published the list and it had 76 teams per division (one team from Carson got lost on the way to St. Louis or some such -- so there were only 607 actual teams competing). Perhaps that is the way they plan on rolling this year as well. Hard to figure FIRST out at times...

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson

Does anyone know if FIRST plans to have 76 teams per division as they did last year or if they plan to have just 75 (i.e. these 600 teams are the teams with possible drops/adds as they or is FIRST sitting on 8 more golden tickets they haven't yet put on the list just yet)?

Overclocked is still hoping against hope to get an invite and it feels less unseemly to hope for a newly opened slot than to hope one of the teams on the list has to drop out...

Dr. Joe J.

I ran numbers in this or another thread. A bird told me the target cycle time was 7.5 minutes. Assuming 75 teams, that's 10 matches per team and 22 minutes of buffer time in the schedule. One more team adds 2 more matches and knocks the buffer down to 7 minutes. Given how things have run everywhere this year, I think they'd aim for 75 teams and the extra buffer time.

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

I ran numbers in this or another thread. A bird told me the target cycle time was 7.5 minutes. Assuming 75 teams, that's 10 matches per team and 22 minutes of buffer time in the schedule. One more team adds 2 more matches and knocks the buffer down to 7 minutes. Given how things have run everywhere this year, I think they'd aim for 75 teams and the extra buffer time.

It seems that FIRST is trying to have exactly 600 teams this year. And they are very close to doing so.

Last year we ended up with 607 teams. If they were going to end up with more they would have* given the spots out by now.
*It only seems to make sense. Every time they remove teams they add another to fill the spot created.

[rich2202]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

I ran numbers in this or another thread. A bird told me the target cycle time was 7.5 minutes. Assuming 75 teams, that's 10 matches per team and 22 minutes of buffer time in the schedule. One more team adds 2 more matches and knocks the buffer down to 7 minutes. Given how things have run everywhere this year, I think they'd aim for 75 teams and the extra buffer time.

With 75 teams and 10 matches each, that is 750 robot matches.
750 robot matches with 6 teams per match is 125 game matches

Qualifications is from 8:30-5:00 on Thursday, and 8:00 to 6:30 on Friday, That is 8.5 hours on Thursday, and 10.5 hours on Friday for a total of 19 hours.

However, there are 2 hour lunch breaks on each day, so the total for matches is 15 hours, or 900 minutes.

125 game matches at 7 minutes per match is 875 minutes, leaving 25 minutes for the 10 Audience Defense Selection (2.5 minutes per selection).