Being Proactive About Paper Airplanes on Einstein

[TheModMaster8]

Originally Posted by Carolyn_Grace

One of the issues is that the majority of the airplanes end of littering the dome floor, which is at the end of the competition rightfully reserved for celebration of the winning team.

There just isn't the option of allowing other people down on the dome to help clean up.

Respectfully, your sentiment of "If I'm going to throw paper airplanes, I might as well help pick them up." just isn't an option. If you truly believe you should help clean up your own messes, then don't make the mess in the first place.

False. the hardest part of cleaning the airplanes is having to walk through the stands and check every row, if they land on the court they can simple be swept into a pile and disposed of. helping by gathering them around the stands would be a big help to those volunteers and that should be done by everyone

[marshall]

Originally Posted by Zebra_Fact_Man

Oh man. In the hands of skilled drivers, this is a dangerous tool.

I don't think you'll be able to keep signal to it beyond about 20ft inside the dome without a serious antenna or amp... but I could be wrong.

Of course, you could just not throw paper airplanes in the dome.

[216Robochick288]

Originally Posted by FRC_498

Im ready for Championships.....

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If you are going to throw airplanes absolutely in no way should you add weight to it. I would really like to not be hit in the face with that.

[EricH]

Some of the Torbot mentors were discussing the topic today. Add us to the "no throw zone" crowd. At least as much as possible...

[frcguy]

Our students will certainly not be participating in paper airplane throwing. Lots of waste for little reason or gain.

[Kit Gerhart]

The cleanup should not be much of an issue. After we leave, large numbers of people go down the aisles and collect the soda bottles, food wrappers, confetti they dump at the end of the ceremony, etc., just as they clean up the beer cups and hot dog wrappers after a football game.

The problem, is that it is very inconsiderate to fly the airplanes during the ceremony itself, and during matches.

[IronicDeadBird]

Crowd based games are one fairly simple solution to this. FIRST could do trivia and have people tweet the answers. They could do bingo. People could also be more proactive about promoting the different opportunities at the event like conferences. I'd want to say they could have a video game tournament.
There are other things you can do at St Louis.
And don't tell me someone accidentally made and threw a paper airplane that was a decision, and you can decide to do any of the other things there.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Kit Gerhart

The cleanup should not be much of an issue. After we leave, large numbers of people go down the aisles and collect the soda bottles, food wrappers, confetti they dump at the end of the ceremony, etc., just as they clean up the beer cups and hot dog wrappers after a football game.

The problem, is that it is very inconsiderate to fly the airplanes during the ceremony itself, and during matches.

I disagree. It's *also* discourteous to leave soda bottles, food wrappers, [beer] cups, hot dog wrappers, and everything else for the cleaning staff (who will have enough to do regardless)--and if FIRST can do anything at all right, it can teach a generation of kids both to clean up after themselves and to not make more of a mess than they have to.

[Kit Gerhart]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

I disagree. It's *also* discourteous to leave soda bottles, food wrappers, [beer] cups, hot dog wrappers, and everything else for the cleaning staff (who will have enough to do regardless)--and if FIRST can do anything at all right, it can teach a generation of kids both to clean up after themselves and to not make more of a mess than they have to.

It is expected that trash will be left in the stands at the Edward Jones Dome, and at the venues for most of the regionals. There are few places to deposit trash, and even fewer places to recycle stuff. I'm not saying it should be that way, but it is. Do the operators of the venue expect the guests to collect the confetti?

As far as paper airplanes, weight should certainly not be added. That is a safety hazard.

[gblake]

Originally Posted by Kit Gerhart

It is expected that trash will be left in the stands at the Edward Jones Dome, and at the venues for most of the regionals. There are few places to deposit trash, and even fewer places to recycle stuff. I'm not saying it should be that way, but it is.

Expected isn't the same as courteous. Anyone who wants to be responsible for their own trash can easily succeed.

[Chi Meson]

Organize a paper airplane competition.

I recall seeing some fine gliders in 2014. I must admit it was fascinating. Having read the arguments, I will be instructing my team to leave all paper behind as we sit down for Einstein, but as other have said, If FIRST would make it clear that throwing airplanes is not acceptable, it would help a lot.

But the wait in 2014 was excruciating. So much waiting, and inaudible speeches, and more and more of the same ------- "music" we listened to all season long, and waiting and waiting, and the worst $5 pretzel mankind has ever created, and hours before we can get dinner...

I just didn't think of the paper airplanes as being the worst aspect of that evening.

So sanction it, make it official and safe. Put together simple rules: specific launching area (off to the side), target zone, wait your turn, launch maybe 5 at a time, end abruptly when ceremonies begin. We can applaud the good ones, laugh at the "bombers," it could be a blast.

And it would far fewer pieces of paper compared to the "mass garbage toss" we've been seeing.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

I disagree. It's *also* discourteous to leave soda bottles, food wrappers, [beer] cups, hot dog wrappers, and everything else for the cleaning staff (who will have enough to do regardless)--and if FIRST can do anything at all right, it can teach a generation of kids both to clean up after themselves and to not make more of a mess than they have to.

Pat,
If we could only get that through to the party people who attend concerts and theaters these days. It is pretty nasty trying to pull cables out of that mess when striking a TV production after everyone has left. One event I worked had less than 500 people in the audience. The cleanup crew started picking up recyclables first and filled two 55 gallon drums with glass bottles.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

Pat,
If we could only get that through to the party people who attend concerts and theaters these days. It is pretty nasty trying to pull cables out of that mess when striking a TV production after everyone has left. One event I worked had less than 500 people in the audience. The cleanup crew started picking up recyclables first and filled two 55 gallon drums with glass bottles.

It's pretty appalling the condition that most people leave things, with the excuse that someone's going to have to clean it up anyway.

[Chris_Ely]

I am seeing planes already during opening ceremonies, from the webcast. Remember this is being broadcast all over the world. Mentors, please keep your students from throwing planes.

[marshall]

Originally Posted by Chris_Ely

I am seeing planes already during opening ceremonies, from the webcast. Remember this is being broadcast all over the world. Mentors, please keep your students from throwing planes.

It's worse than that. I'm taking a phone call because of work but I can tell you that paper scraps were thrown over the upper balconies landing on the sponsors. It's very uncool and I really wish we were all better than this.