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Re: 2016 Chairman's Hall of Fame Predictions

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This chart was quite fascinating in considering the next entrant to the HoF. Helps to show some trends too. Couldn't find the thread its from, someone else made it!
I threw that chart together in Tableau, I forget where I originally posted it on CD, but it's on our teams FB page as well.

I have a few other charts I put together that show some other interesting trends, especially when we think about the number of teams that won this year that have a team number greater than 1114. If I'm not mistaken it is roughly 75% of the 2016 winners.
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Re: 2016 Chairman's Hall of Fame Predictions

Just something to remind you of that it doesn't necessarily have to be a team that "deserves it". Its the team with the best program, which I would say is 987, 11, 33, etc. However, 868 from Indiana is looking really good, maybe not enough to beat out the others, but you never know.
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Can I ask a favor of folks - Instead of "oh they do a lot" or "they win it a lot"

Can we at least give some reasons? Preferably with reference to the award criteria.
This. As I've been reading through this thread I've seen a whole lot of numbers but no particular reasons why. Rather than just general guesses of teams, could we have a little discussion and look at the outreach so we can see to what extent each team embodies FIRST values?
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This. As I've been reading through this thread I've seen a whole lot of numbers but no particular reasons why. Rather than just general guesses of teams, could we have a little discussion and look at the outreach so we can see to what extent each team embodies FIRST values?
A good starting point might be looking at the submissions by some of the teams mentioned in this thread here http://www.firstinspires.org/resourc...-award-winners
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It is interesting, but it's incomplete. I wonder if you could get in touch with someone to get it updated?

384 also won CA this year and isn't on that chart.
They probably got skipped if whoever compiled the chart pulled the winner list off of this page.

I emailed support about it a week ago and they seemed confused as to what I was asking, so I was going to wait until after champs. I imagine they are either busy in Manchester or even StL at this point.
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Re: 2016 Chairman's Hall of Fame Predictions

Pulling for 987.

Why? In addition to stories I've heard about them being transformative for their own community, they've done a ton of international work in China and been a great role model for other teams within FIRST, both on and off the field of play.

When we say "What teams do we want to be like?" 987 is on the short list with 2056, 1678, etc.
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A good starting point might be looking at the submissions by some of the teams mentioned in this thread here http://www.firstinspires.org/resourc...-award-winners
So just a bit of insight into how I have to read CA essays and why I'm asking folks to add context to their predictions. To really find where a team maps to award criteria I generally have to read each essay several times while checking the criteria so I know what I'm looking for. It's incredibly time consuming even with how quickly I read. Notes have to be taken. It's a process. So while I can absolutely do this for teams I'm asking folks who feel passionately about a team to share their thoughts and save me some time.

Full disclaimer - I'm also using it to see how others interpret the CA award criteria.
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So just a bit of insight into how I have to read CA essays and why I'm asking folks to add context to their predictions. To really find where a team maps to award criteria I generally have to read each essay several times while checking the criteria so I know what I'm looking for. It's incredibly time consuming even with how quickly I read. Notes have to be taken. It's a process. So while I can absolutely do this for teams I'm asking folks who feel passionately about a team to share their thoughts and save me some time.

Full disclaimer - I'm also using it to see how others interpret the CA award criteria.
Thinking it over more in terms of the essay criteria itself, I actually do think 11 deserves quite a lot of recognition.

They are one of the largest FRC programs in the world and boast massive enrollment numbers within a relatively small school size. Over 10% of the student body is involved in 11/193 and more than that are enrolled in the STEM classes that have been in place in the district for more than 15 years. They've met with some big names in entertainment including Montel and Wendy Williams. These guys do a TON in their community and have huge amounts of sponsor involvement. The town absolutely loves the team and they are constantly invited to be representatives of the town and state for various events.

While I don't think they hold the national or international impact of someone like 1114 (this is the standard in my head I compare against), they have been a tremendous program with a lot of alumni in STEM and alumni who are still actively involved in FIRST. They have also survived huge organizational changes over the past few years and that speaks volumes to the team's level of sustainability.

So, yeah, if FIRST really wants a team and program for others to emulate in their towns, I think MORT is a prime example. I would love to see my home team in the HOF.

Edit: I do think 987 got to HOF level first, but 11 definitely deserves it soon.
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11, 233, 503, 1519, and 1676 are my guesses.
I certainly appreciate the mention, but there's no way 1519 wins at the World Championship level... there are plenty of contenders that have much more on their "Chairmans' Resume."
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This is a really interesting comment Gregor.
Who actually predicted 597 to win HoF last year ?

Is FIRST going in a completely different direction with the HoF selection process ?
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I'll offer up one that I feel has been overlooked for some time...

1311
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I'll offer up one that I feel has been overlooked for some time...

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1311 would be an obvious step forward in the vein of 597.
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1311 would be an obvious step forward in the vein of 597.
I would argue that 1311, while perhaps not the sort of 'household name' that many HoF teams are, is definitely on more observers' radars than 597 was. They have 8 Regional Chairman's Awards (tied for 3rd all-time), and they're doing some great stuff in their area (and beyond).

My list would be 503, 604, and 2486. All three have fantastic, sustained programs with amazing students, and I'd put my money on one of them to win the big one on Saturday.
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1311 would be an obvious step forward in the vein of 597.
Can you guys elaborate?

I know little to nothing about either team. I still don't really know why 597 won (never looked into it to be honest), but if you do, please explain the relation to 1311's story and what they do.
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Can you guys elaborate?

I know little to nothing about either team. I still don't really know why 597 won (never looked into it to be honest), but if you do, please explain the relation to 1311's story and what they do.
I can tell you that 1311 is on my radar because their sphere of influence is the southeastern US but they are doing a lot beyond as well. I'm a huge fan and I'd love to see them become an HOF team for the work they are doing to help out a region that desperately needs it. NC has some teams doing similar work but they aren't quite up there with 1311 yet.
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