Dropshots Fired!

[MooreteP]

Originally Posted by JesseK

The 2nd ball wasn't centered on the tape. And if it were, the intake appears to come down over the apex of the 2nd ball, meaning it broke the plane of the center tape. Am I seeing that right?

Yep......

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by AlexanderTheOK

While I do hope this works out for them at champs, I have to agree that based on this video, it is doubtful this particular routine would actually get the ball in a legal starting position. It seems that the bot just barely doesnt cross the line, but the ball also seems to be 2 inches closer

I'm not going to claim to know 254's intake geometry, but from the angle of the camera, 2 inches farther and it wouldn't get a grip on that ball.

Of course, I imagine this isn't the final iteration either.

I just find it hard to believe that the Cheesy Poofs would overlook these details. I think it's much more likely that the camera view is misleading. After all, if these oversights were easy enough for armchair roboticists to point out after watching a 10 second YouTube video, surely someone on 254 would have noticed the issue first?

254 knows what they're doing. If you don't believe their auto is legit and think it was sloppy or not accurate, it's your loss. They aren't cheating, and they certainly aren't making videos of illegal autonomous modes to intimidate people.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU

Oh god, put 254 and 118 along with an other robot that gets one ball in, and that's 80 points straight up after autonomous, and tower down to 6 health

If Champs tower strength is 10, then 10-2-2-1 = 5 strength. Which is absolutely insane.

[M217]

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU

Oh god, put 254 and 118 along with an other robot that gets one ball in, and that's 80 points straight up after autonomous, and tower down to 6 health

Down to 5, right? If 254 gets 2 shots in, 118 gets 2 shots in, and robot 3 gets a shot in, then the 10 starting health drops to 5.

[TheMilkman01]

I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that I look forward to seeing this in person. Beautiful.

[MaGiC_PiKaChU]

Originally Posted by Billfred

If Champs tower strength is 10, then 10-2-2-1 = 5 strength. Which is absolutely insane.

right thanks, I should start over my elementary school math
but 5 or 6 doesn't really matter at this point, the tower will be WAY below 0 health when the match ends anyways

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU

right thanks, I should start over my elementary school math
but 5 or 6 doesn't really matter at this point, the tower will be WAY below 0 health when the match ends anyways

Fair statement.

The question I wonder: will we see a 6-ball auto, either here or at IRI? Between low bar, rock wall/rough terrain, and moat/ramparts, it's not like the field doesn't lend itself to it.

[Jared Russell]

Originally Posted by JesseK

If he says it doesn't cross, then I believe it doesn't cross. Normally I'm right there with ya if it were anyone other than the Poofs.

Skepticism is healthy when it comes to robot videos! Until someone does this in a qualification or elimination match, it hasn't happened as far as I am concerned. I am confident in the legality and reliability of our class B/D 2-ball on our practice field, but I'm just a guy on a message board.

The ball not being on the line was an oversight on our part. I double checked all the other videos of this and (of course, ugh) we used the only take where the ball was slightly off (you get sloppy after running a few dozen times). Besides, if we were intentionally pulling a fast one on you, we would have filmed the video from 6 inches off the ground.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by Billfred

Fair statement.

The question I wonder: will we see a 6-ball auto, either here or at IRI? Between low bar, rock wall/rough terrain, and moat/ramparts, it's not like the field doesn't lend itself to it.

A ramparts 2 ball auto would be close to impossible.

Cue next 254 video.

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by Billfred

The question I wonder: will we see a 6-ball auto, either here or at IRI? Between low bar, rock wall/rough terrain, and moat/ramparts, it's not like the field doesn't lend itself to it.

Hmm, seems like Worlds may have a better chance since the audience can be 'convinced' to select Moat. We have yet to see if IRI will keep that particular 'feature' of the game.

Though Class A 2-balls could become a thing with Portcullis. CDF - maybe... that drop is so violent...

[Greg Needel]

Guess what, even if you do end up crossing the line it is a 5pt penalty and the ball is worth 10pts in the goal. The tower strength drop + net 5pts + balls on your side of the field in auton is worth the risk.


I just believe that the 2nd ball wont be there for them in elims as it is even easier to defend than the one through the low bar.


@254 & @118
Great job guys! Looking forward to seeing you on Einstein. (hopefully from the other side of the field and not from the stands).

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Though Class A 2-balls could become a thing with Portcullis. CDF - maybe... that drop is so violent...

Portcullis seems easiest, but it would have required the correct robot geometry (Forward facing turret and backwards facing intake).

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

Yep......

Con's of living in California

• Sometimes the second ball in your Class D, 2 Ball auto mode gets rolled off the center line just a bit by the wind rushing through your outdoor practice field.

Pro's of living in California

• Literally everything else.

[Thad House]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Con's of living in California

• Sometimes the second ball in your Class D, 2 Ball auto mode gets rolled off the center line just a bit by the wind rushing through your outdoor practice field.

Pro's of living in California

• Literally everything else.

Probably the reason I'm moving there this June!

[billbo911]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Pro's of living in California

• Literally everything else.

It's the weather, always the weather!