2016 IRI Rule Change Suggestions

[headlight]

Originally Posted by Captain_Kirch

After seeing the playoffs in our division(Carson), we need the high speed impact rule from 2014 back. It was carnage.

Perhaps, but it doesn't really seem like there is that much space on the field to gain momentum, unlike 2014.

[Captain_Kirch]

Originally Posted by headlight

Perhaps, but it doesn't really seem like there is that much space on the field to gain momentum, unlike 2014.

There's enough space to gain excessive force. A bump is enough to disrupt any shot. What I saw out there was excessive. Look at the match videos from carson field. I don't want any to ever have to experience play like that again.

I think a large amount of the issues I saw on that field were from uninforced rules, but adding another layer of protection is some positive step as opposed merely blaming refs.

Also the definition of intent may be vauge, but I think we can all agree that giving up points or drawing fouls should count as intent. Maybe we can make that clearer. You can't accidentally tip a robot inches from the outer works outer works, they were already gone. You can't accidentally push a robot into your own secret passage from your courtyard in the last 25 seconds when they should be running away. I saw both of those things happen in our field, and it needs to end NOW.

[Chris Fultz]

General guidelines we use are that we won't make changes that are a major impact to designs, and we try to limit changes so that teams don't feel compelled to spend all of June and July working on their robot to meet some new challenge. We are also have to consider changes that impact FMS, automated systems, and referees.

Thanks for all of the suggestions and input. We are working to create the modifications (if any).

Any rule modification will be posted for teams before the Invitation Response deadline, so teams can determine if they want to play the modified game before they commit.

[headlight]

Originally Posted by Captain_Kirch

There's enough space to gain excessive force. A bump is enough to disrupt any shot. What I saw out there was excessive. Look at the match videos from carson field. I don't want any to ever have to experience play like that again.

I think a large amount of the issues I saw on that field were from uninforced rules, but adding another layer of protection is some positive step as opposed merely blaming refs.

Also the definition of intent may be vauge, but I think we can all agree that giving up points or drawing fouls should count as intent. Maybe we can make that clearer. You can't accidentally tip a robot sitting in the outer works. You can accidentally push a robot into your own secret passage from your courtyard in the last 20 seconds. I saw both of those things happen in our field, and it needs to end NOW.

I re-watched some of the matches, SF1M1 did get a bit excessive, but overall I think most of the flips were due to the all terrain nature of the robots. The hits this year have much less energy than 2014, and the force is a side effect of a single defender trying to disrupt two or three robots at once, something you can't do if you're moving slowly or trying to brake before every impact.


I do agree with you about the intentional fouling of robots during the endgame and generally throughout the match, it was disappointing when I realized that rule was not really going to be enforced this year but we kinda just buckled down and dealt with it.

[carpedav000]

Originally Posted by headlight

Perhaps, but it doesn't really seem like there is that much space on the field to gain momentum, unlike 2014.

Keep an eye on 829:

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2016inpmh_sf1m2