Beachbots 330 flip/recovery gifs

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Notice how their drivers are calm the entire time. No jumping, pointing or shouting. Just moving some joysticks. They're in driver's station 3 in the upper-left side of the screen. At the end of the match the partners have their hands on their heads, possibly worried that the flip cost them the match? Not 330's drivers - calm, collected.

I re-watched the video and that's probably the most amazing thing. From the moment of the first flip, they barely even react. Just working the problem. The most reaction you see is the manipulator driver jumping a bit after the second flip, urging the robot to get back up in time for the challenge.

Question to any 330 members in the audience: Do you guys do astronaut level training or something? Throw 5 different problems at the drivers at once and see how they handle it? Or maybe... Maybe the drivers are robots too! 330 was bored with the standard FRC challenge and decided to up their game with robot drivers.

[mrmummert]

I've watched this several times now and i swear thats Woodie to the left next to and slightly behind the field reset crew...another guy comes up behind him between him and the field crew. He claps when 330 gets up. when the fall back the second time he puts his hands to his face like hes thinking "oh no not again".

[kyle_hamblett]

As a driver, I can only strive for this level of play. Every year 330 builds an impressive robot, as well as an impressive drive team to compliment it. Hats off to the world champs.

[I_AM_Clayton]

Originally Posted by mrmummert

I've watched this several times now and i swear thats Woodie to the left next to and slightly behind the field reset crew...another guy comes up behind him between him and the field crew. He claps when 330 gets up. when the fall back the second time he puts his hands to his face like hes thinking "oh no not again".

I think that was him! Mr. Flowers was on the field with the teams before the match started.

[Citrus Dad]

Even though we were on the receiving end of that recovery, it was truly amazing (akin to 971's recovery after flipping at the 2014 Sacramento Regional.)

And I was glad to see that 2990 avoided interfering after the first flip. 330 was down long enough that 2990 could have legally come by and prevented the recovery, but instead gave 330 a wide berth.

[ShaneP]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

I re-watched the video and that's probably the most amazing thing. From the moment of the first flip, they barely even react. Just working the problem. The most reaction you see is the manipulator driver jumping a bit after the second flip, urging the robot to get back up in time for the challenge.

Question to any 330 members in the audience: Do you guys do astronaut level training or something? Throw 5 different problems at the drivers at once and see how they handle it? Or maybe... Maybe the drivers are robots too! 330 was bored with the standard FRC challenge and decided to up their game with robot drivers.

Your questions above gave me a good laugh

We knew that we could recover from the first type of flip because the same thing happened in the LA Regional eliminations. However, we had never recovered or practiced recovering from the second type of fall - that recovery was our operator working on-the-fly knowing what he had under his control. I think their calmness under pressure can be mostly attributed to the fact they are both very collected, mature individuals and that they work together well under stress. Next to that is the many, many hours of driving practice they put in.

[Dale(294engr]]

Originally Posted by ShaneP

Your questions above gave me a good laugh

We knew that we could recover from the first type of flip because the same thing happened in the LA Regional eliminations. However, we had never recovered or practiced recovering from the second type of fall - that recovery was our operator working on-the-fly knowing what he had under his control. I think their calmness under pressure can be mostly attributed to the fact they are both very collected, mature individuals and that they work together well under stress. Next to that is the many, many hours of driving practice they put in.

Some perspective:

This years 330 drive team demonstrated the ultimate in calm under pressure, skill & adaptability, each having been personally motivated and nurtured by the uniquely effective adult and family relationship permeated via Hope Chapel Academy bigger family way of life. The result are students and adults that are mutually respectful, helpful; great role models for all, not just FIRST but for life.

Shane is perhaps a bit too modest.. he has been able to mentor his learned & acquired skills to the team, kudos to all for such demonstrated effectiveness, perhaps even rivaling the master??

My having known & been on the field during Shane's entire multi year driving "career" with Team 330, I observed his expertise, year after year, NEVER erring in turn direction (independent of fwd or rev direction) as I truly believed Shane to be one with the robot, arguably one of if not the best driver in FIRST competition history.

Shane "relaxes" by putting numerous RC cars through their paces to clear his head?

Respectfully Dale... since 1998-9 when our combined team split into 3,

each developing perennially highly effective & successful teams:

207 294 330

hearty congratulations... from one of your proud mentors

[araniaraniratul]

Originally Posted by Dale(294engr]

Respectfully Dale... since 1998-9 when our combined team split into 3,

each developing perennially highly effective & successful teams:

207 294 330

Seriously, has to be the most successful set of teams coming from the same home program. 4 World Championships, Countless Regional Wins, and a few Chairman's for starters.

[Dale(294engr]]

Originally Posted by araniaraniratul

Seriously, has to be the most successful set of teams coming from the same home program. 4 World Championships, Countless Regional Wins, and a few Chairman's for starters.

Make that 5 World Championships ? (I believe) 2 ea for 294 & 330 1 for 207)

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Dale(294engr]

Make that 5 World Championships ? (I believe) 2 ea for 294 & 330 1 for 207)

Nope, it's 4. 207 took home the Finalist back in '12 as I recall. Still looking for that elusive Champs win.



There's also a couple of Division Winners from 330 ('07 and '15), not sure about 294.

[Botwoon]

Originally Posted by Dale(294engr]

Make that 5 World Championships ? (I believe) 2 ea for 294 & 330 1 for 207)

We (207) made it to finals in 2012, but no championship wins (yet). We've won 3 EI and 1 CA to date. Going off of one of Joe Ross' posts from a few years ago, I believe that 330 also has an award winning streak of 17 years and 207 has a streak of 15

I'm really happy that this came up; I might be biased, but it's definitely my favorite tidbit of FRC history

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Botwoon

Going off of one of Joe Ross' posts from a few years ago, I believe that 330 also has an award winning streak of 17 years and 207 has a streak of 15

330 was skunked awardwise in 2013, on top of coming up short against 1717 short of the finals in both of their regionals. The current streak is 3 years, so the previous would have been 13 years (if my quick math is right).



330 does try to have some self-righting features if possible, but they usually serve some other purpose (like scoring points). I'm pretty sure that self-righting isn't practiced, though...

[kaliken]

Originally Posted by Botwoon

We (207) made it to finals in 2012, but no championship wins (yet). We've won 3 EI and 1 CA to date. Going off of one of Joe Ross' posts from a few years ago, I believe that 330 also has an award winning streak of 17 years and 207 has a streak of 15

I'm really happy that this came up; I might be biased, but it's definitely my favorite tidbit of FRC history

294 had a 12 year consecutive award streak that was snapped in 2015. This included 2 EI and 1 CA. We also have 2 Divisional wins to go with our 2 championships... Plus countless regional finalists..
I have been meaning to run the data as we have so many silver medals (always finishing 2nd to 330!) that we were beginning to wonder if 294 has the most silver medals in FRC... Always the bridesmaid!

And also Major Props to Shane passing down his knowledge to Zac! Amazing driving man! Perhaps you guys can give a little talent to our driver next year!!!

[chamingflicken]

I wonder if they designed their robot with the intention of being able to get back up when they fell over.
They definitely seem to have practiced it -- to execute the maneuver that flawlessly twice can't possibly be unpracticed.

[DevonA]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

I re-watched the video and that's probably the most amazing thing. From the moment of the first flip, they barely even react. Just working the problem. The most reaction you see is the manipulator driver jumping a bit after the second flip, urging the robot to get back up in time for the challenge.

Question to any 330 members in the audience: Do you guys do astronaut level training or something? Throw 5 different problems at the drivers at once and see how they handle it? Or maybe... Maybe the drivers are robots too! 330 was bored with the standard FRC challenge and decided to up their game with robot drivers.

It is my honest opinion that 330 has the best drivers in all of first. I was lucky enough to drive with them at the 2015 Ventura Regional, the composure and skill shown by there drivers was nearly unbelievable. Happy to see them win, they deserve it.