Split Champs assignment

[wjordan]

Originally Posted by Eugene Fang

http://www.thebluealliance.com/2champs

Have fun.

RIP.

The applet has NC teams going to STL / DET when they should be headed for HOU.
Otherwise, a useful tool, thanks!

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by wjordan

The applet has NC teams going to STL / DET when they should be headed for HOU.
Otherwise, a useful tool, thanks!

Thanks for the catch. Silly typo...

Things will be correct in ~10 min.

https://github.com/the-blue-alliance...791843f68c8610

[Conor Ryan]

I wonder if the timing of the Vex Champs will have an impact on which event IFI sponsored teams will want to attend.

Looks like most of the NASA teams are headed south.

How many matches will teams expect to play?

[nerdrock101]

Teams will be assigned to attend a FIRST Championship (i.e., their “home” Championship) based on the location where the team is based and not the location of the event through which they qualify for Championship.

Hypothetically, what if teams from the Houston attending region won most of the championship slots from the regionals in the Detroit attending region as well as the Houston attending region?

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by Conor Ryan

Looks like most of the NASA teams are headed south.

I wonder if NASA understands this as a major sponsor...

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad

I wonder if NASA understands this as a major sponsor...

You do realize that most of NASA's facilities are in the southern area or the coasts, right? Exactly the areas FIRST picked to go to the Houston whatever-you-want-to-call-it-but-not-championship.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Conor Ryan

How many matches will teams expect to play?

This would be the question, wouldn't it? Let's say we have 17 hours of qualification matches (what we had this year), and a 7-minute match cycle. That's 145 qualification matches, which with 6 robots per match means there are 874ish robot-matches to play. At 100 teams per division, that's 8.74 plays. Boo hiss.

If that gets down to a 6-minute cycle, it gets to 10.2. That's right on what we have this year, but with the higher team count it does make the schedule that much more of a crapshoot. But you're still playing more than we did at Palmetto, so yay?

If they went to 8 50-team sub-divisions, you could run a 10-minute cycle and play 12. Doubt they go that route, especially with smaller venues, but I'll put it out there for giggles.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Billfred

If they went to 8 50-team sub-divisions, you could run a 10-minute cycle and play 12. Doubt they go that route, especially with smaller venues, but I'll put it out there for giggles.

I'm actually hoping that's the route they go, or 4 100-team subdivisions each with 2 fields (despite the scouting nightmare that results). You could also shorten the hours/day the matches are running.

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by EricH

I'm actually hoping that's the route they go, or 4 100-team subdivisions each with 2 fields (despite the scouting nightmare that results). You could also shorten the hours/day the matches are running.

It would be nice to see shorter days, with a better Cost per match.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by EricH

I'm actually hoping that's the route they go, or 4 100-team subdivisions each with 2 fields (despite the scouting nightmare that results). You could also shorten the hours/day the matches are running.

Hadn't considered that angle, and that would certainly make a 6-minute cycle more feasible. However, FLL and FTC have to fit back into the America's Center this year. Can you do that with eight fields?

[sdangelo]

Originally Posted by Billfred

Hadn't considered that angle, and that would certainly make a 6-minute cycle more feasible. However, FLL and FTC have to fit back into the America's Center this year. Can you do that with eight fields?

According to the pit map, FLL is still in the America's Center. The Scholarship Row & Sponsor booths were moved to the hotel instead.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Billfred

Hadn't considered that angle, and that would certainly make a 6-minute cycle more feasible. However, FLL and FTC have to fit back into the America's Center this year. Can you do that with eight fields?

Yep. Remember that you're also losing 200 FRC pits (and crates). That's 200 10' squares (and their aisles) that you now have available for FTC "stuff", plus a little.

Or, to put it another way: The Archimedes/Tesla pits turn into FTC. Move the FRC practice fields (and take out one of each type, maybe?) and you've got a pretty good shot at fitting a fair number of FTC teams in there. Whether it'll be enough is an open question, but it'll be pretty close.

[orangemoore]

Wait did they say FTC was coming back to the Dome?

[Basel A]

Originally Posted by EricH

I'm actually hoping that's the route they go, or 4 100-team subdivisions each with 2 fields (despite the scouting nightmare that results). You could also shorten the hours/day the matches are running.

Trying to get 100 teams into bleachers in Cobo Hall (Detroit CMP) will be a huge pain. Would much rather have 50 teams worth of bleachers at each division field. Also would be great not to have to scout two fields. It's pretty tough to do at MSC. Einstein is taken care of by being in Ford Field.

[Edxu]

Originally Posted by EricH

I'm actually hoping that's the route they go, or 4 100-team subdivisions each with 2 fields (despite the scouting nightmare that results). You could also shorten the hours/day the matches are running.

I'm for this as well. As a strategist, I usually meet with my Drive Team 4-5 matches beforehand to detail what we're doing, and at events with short turnarounds *cough waterloo cough*, sometimes the teams that I talk with have a match right before the match that we play with them, making it very difficult to plan matches in advance.

A 10-minute turnaround would be a godsend for pit crew as well, as more space between matches means that you can do more and more of the checkup list between matches, keeping the robot in better shape.

Also fewer pit scouting assignments per person is really nice.