Split Champs assignment

[Knufire]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

Why even go a weak Championship?

More wins = more grade A bumper fabric.

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by Knufire

More wins = more grade A bumper fabric.

Only on about half of the alliances though.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

Conferences? Sponsor and scholarship presentations? It's not just about the robots.

While it is not just about the robot, district teams sometimes cannot financially justify attending Champs, unless the team really feels it is worth going to. It is a different story for you Indiana folks since you are a lot closer.

For a lot of teams, the robot is still the central focus, and playing with friends and teams we love is also the justification for said expenses. Not every team will rationalize going or not going the same way.

I have a feeling the focus for a lot of teams will shift to their District Championship event as their last official event. Others may go to travel off-season events such as IRI and Chezy Champs (low cost+see your old friends)

[GreyingJay]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

Conferences? Sponsor and scholarship presentations? It's not just about the robots.

Actually, this leads to a good question - will conferences be duplicated at each championship? I hope I don't have to miss out on half the seminars.

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by GreyingJay

Actually, this leads to a good question - will conferences be duplicated at each championship? I hope I don't have to miss out on half the seminars.

Many of the most popular seminars are given by mentors of teams that are annual contenders at the Championship, who volunteer their time to give these talks.

Do you expect these volunteers to now attend both 1/2 CMP's/Super Regionals?

Or, do you expect comparable experts in most/all subjects at both 1/2 CMP's/Super Regionals?

[Carolyn_Grace]

Originally Posted by GreyingJay

Actually, this leads to a good question - will conferences be duplicated at each championship? I hope I don't have to miss out on half the seminars.

Do you attend all of the seminars now? I'm lucky if I get to two!

[marshall]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Many of the most popular seminars are given by mentors of teams that are annual contenders at the Championship, who volunteer their time to give these talks.

Do you expect these volunteers to now attend both 1/2 CMP's/Super Regionals?

Or, do you expect comparable experts in most/all subjects at both 1/2 CMP's/Super Regionals?

I think you'll get a different range of talks at each event with others stepping up to fill in the gaps created... granted, I'm being optimistic. I also hope that by this time next year FIRST has solidified a partnership with Twitch or YouTube or someone to get the talks recorded and posted.

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by marshall

I think you'll get a different range of talks at each event with others stepping up to fill in the gaps created... granted, I'm being optimistic. I also hope that by this time next year FIRST has solidified a partnership with Twitch or YouTube or someone to get the talks recorded and posted.

I totally agree here.

Those that expect a Karthik/Jared/Tom/Austin (some of the rockstars of FRC) presentation at both Super Regionals have their heads in the clouds.

I think many similar topics will be covered at both events. Just don't mistake quantity for quality.

-Mike

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

I think many similar topics will be covered at both events. Just don't mistake quantity for quality.

My hope is that there's some effort (by FIRST or the community) to have the presenters for similar talks work together to create a joint presentation both can be happy with. It still won't be identical, but working off the same slide deck or notes would certainly help!

[marshall]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

I totally agree here.

Those that expect a Karthik/Jared/Tom/Austin (some of the rockstars of FRC) presentation at both Super Regionals have their heads in the clouds.

I think many similar topics will be covered at both events. Just don't mistake quantity for quality.

-Mike

I hope no one expects that but maybe I'm wrong. I've seen this happen in the hacker/maker community in the past where conferences diverge and you end up with different topics and speakers going to each. There are a lot of rockstars in FRC. Hopefully more of them step up and who knows, creating the opportunity could bring more of them out. While Karthik has always been Karthik, I don't know that he has always been Karthik*... if you know what I mean.

*The man who gives amazing talks for TED and FIRST and has a ton of enthusiasm and passion. Though I suppose its entirely possible he was forged that way and broke the mold in the process.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by marshall

I hope no one expects that but maybe I'm wrong. I've seen this happen in the hacker/maker community in the past where conferences diverge and you end up with different topics and speakers going to each. There are a lot of rockstars in FRC. Hopefully more of them step up and who knows, creating the opportunity could bring more of them out. While Karthik has always been Karthik, I don't know that he has always been Karthik*... if you know what I mean.

*The man who gives amazing talks for TED and FIRST and has a ton of enthusiasm and passion. Though I suppose its entirely possible he was forged that way and broke the mold in the process.

Well I doubt Karthik will be at the South FRC Championships anyway.
VEX Worlds is scheduled for that weekend.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad

Just had a discussion about that on moving toward better scheduling. FRC used a different scheduling scheme in 2007 in which teams were sorted into 3 bins and teams within the bins didn't play each other. That broke the statistical underpinning of the OPR (at least in the way it's now calculated) making the results nonsensical.

While this is true, even without that formula OPR would have been a poor predictor of future success given the exponential scoring (even if you assume 60-point end-games).

[Knufire]

For the conferences, why can't FIRST just ensure that high quality recordings and presentation materials of all seminars be available online post-chanpionship?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Knufire

For the conferences, why can't FIRST just ensure that high quality recordings and presentation materials of all seminars be available online post-chanpionship?

*chuckle* Yeah, 'bout that... This year's aren't up yet that I know about...

[evanperryg]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Just don't mistake quantity for quality.

-Mike

I was actually going to say this, except I was going to say it in regards to the entire concept of half champs, not just the seminars.