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Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

We have been looking at Laguna IQ. Anybody have one, or a better one? Help!
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

What are you cutting and what is your budget?
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

aluminum 1/8" and 1/4" plate have 14K but was looking to spend as little as possible without giving up precision
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

A couple teams (1678, 3476, 364) mentioned they've gotten this router within the past few years. From what I can tell, they all absolutely love it.

http://www.veloxcncrouters.com/#!vr-5050-4-x-4/c23m8
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

The Laguna looks like it can handle aluminum really easily with their bench top model. I'm impressed. https://youtu.be/OEpApUx6JeU
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The Laguna looks like it can handle aluminum really easily with their bench top model. I'm impressed. https://youtu.be/OEpApUx6JeU
Our VeloxCNC leaves a much nicer finish with the cheaper spindle option and a less stiff table surface and can handle aluminum just as well as that if not better. For 14k you can REALLY deck out your options on the 50"x50" model.

EDIT: we have machined 1/2" plate, made #25 chain sprockets in aluminum and delrin, #35 chain sprockets from 7075.
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The Laguna looks like it can handle aluminum really easily with their bench top model. I'm impressed. https://youtu.be/OEpApUx6JeU
This is leaving a pretty awful finish on the aluminum. The dimensional accuracy of the part can't be great with that much cutter deflection.
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This is leaving a pretty awful finish on the aluminum. The dimensional accuracy of the part can't be great with that much cutter deflection.
I agree, that's probably the reason they aren't playing the sound of it machining during the heavy cuts.

Check these out http://www.veloxcnc.com/vr5050x_cnc_..._x_4.asp#video

We have been able to push ours much harder than most of those videos show.
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

Is the Velox model liquid cooled like the Laguna.
Also Laguna has a repeatability of .002 and the Velox.001
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

I really don't like how the ball screw is being retained on one side by just the flex coupler on the end of a stepper motor. It could be fully supported on the other end but it really should have a floating bearing block. It doesn't speak well for the quality of the rest of the machine.
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

Going to drop this here:

http://www.shopbottools.com
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

Surface finish like that isn't good enough for FRC use? Seriously?

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Is the Velox model liquid cooled like the Laguna.
Also Laguna has a repeatability of .002 and the Velox.001
No, it looks like it uses a Porter Cable Spindle. Though I assume the spindle can be changed out.

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No, it looks like it uses a Porter Cable Spindle. Though I assume the spindle can be changed out.
Yes, seriously.

That surface finish is so bad it looks measurable to .010 or so.

It definitely isn't holding .002" for diameter and location of bearing bores.

If you don't want to make any power transmission plates, it'd be okay. But not much more money gets you 10x the machine.
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

I believe you can get the Velox with a water cooled spindle, but it's way overkill. You would have to be running the machine like a production shop before it would be worth considering. Only thing it really makes easier is changing spindle speeds with the G-code and overrides from the Mach3 controller program.
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Re: Need a good table top scrolling CNC!

Is this Velox router any good?

http://www.veloxcncrouters.com/#!36w/c1xeg
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