F4 - Connect (The new way to get help)

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

Currently our group is students only and we want to keep it that way.

That sounds like "We don't want mentors."

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

Its not that mentors experience is not wanted it just happens to be that we are a student only community.

That sounds like "We don't not want mentors."

I'll wait for you to make up your mind before I decide what I think of this latest proposed Balkanization of the community.

[asid61]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

That sounds like "We don't want mentors."



That sounds like "We don't not want mentors."

I'll wait for you to make up your mind before I decide what I think of this latest proposed Balkanization of the community.

If you combine the two quotes, you end up with:
"Currently our group is students only and we want to keep it that way. Its not that mentors experience is not wanted it just happens to be that we are a student only community."
That makes sense to me. Mentor experience is wanted in general, but not in F4. That doesn't mean that F4 wants to cut out mentors, it just means that it recognizes there are some things students may not want to talk about with their mentors, just as there are some things mentors do not want to talk about with students.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

That sounds like "We don't want mentors."



That sounds like "We don't not want mentors."

I'll wait for you to make up your mind before I decide what I think of this latest proposed Balkanization of the community.

I've seen this sentiment disappear in many as they become adults and are suddenly mentor age.

Sometimes students that aggressively push for student only just want to be the smartest guy in the room for ego reasons.

No idea if that's the case here or not.

[asid61]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

I've seen this sentiment disappear in many as they become adults and are suddenly mentor age.

Sometimes students that aggressively push for student only just want to be the smartest guy in the room for ego reasons.

No idea if that's the case here or not.

As much as possible we're trying to make sure we don't overstep our boundaries. I agree that it's definitely more of a problem in students than in adults and F4 tries to limit it's involvement in things that are beyond it.
There seems to be an agreement in F4 right now about making sure we're "conservative" with how we help people, by putting students in contact with mentors on CD or advising them on where they can receive more detailed help. I think that would aid in alleviating a lot of worries we've seen in this thread, thoughts?

[Hitchhiker 42]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

I've seen this sentiment disappear in many as they become adults and are suddenly mentor age.

Sometimes students that aggressively push for student only just want to be the smartest guy in the room for ego reasons.

No idea if that's the case here or not.

In our discussions, we have equal, level-headed discussions about various things. It is not a defined thing about someone being better than anyone else, but rather that we can all discuss the robots we love (and other things as well) with our peers.