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Re: [TBA] The Blue Alliance 2016 Season Updates

Many thanks to those who have worked so hard to keep TBA continuously improving! I've loved all the data and features that have been added (robot photos, easier video linking, TBA insights, match scores broken out by type, etc.) in recent years.

I've also appreciated having results posted for various scrimmages and off-season events... but one minor nitpick I have, is that I'd prefer the record (or average scores in 2015) shown for teams' seasons be only the "official event" record. Week 0.5 <-> Championship events. Teams often compete very differently at Week 0 events and off-season events, so I think including these unofficial events in the overall record is a little misleading... or at least not representative of their competition season performance.

What do you - particularly the TBA contributors, but also CD community - think about limiting the season record to official events?
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Re: [TBA] The Blue Alliance 2016 Season Updates

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Many thanks to those who have worked so hard to keep TBA continuously improving! I've loved all the data and features that have been added (robot photos, easier video linking, TBA insights, match scores broken out by type, etc.) in recent years.

I've also appreciated having results posted for various scrimmages and off-season events... but one minor nitpick I have, is that I'd prefer the record (or average scores in 2015) shown for teams' seasons be only the "official event" record. Week 0.5 <-> Championship events. Teams often compete very differently at Week 0 events and off-season events, so I think including these unofficial events in the overall record is a little misleading... or at least not representative of their competition season performance.

What do you - particularly the TBA contributors, but also CD community - think about limiting the season record to official events?
You make a good point.

Both might be the answer. I think it would be fairly simple to have both an "official" and "total" record for each season.

Interested to hear if the TBA peeps have given this thought in the past.

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Re: [TBA] The Blue Alliance 2016 Season Updates

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In sports, a lot of times they will present the official record with an unofficial record in parens, so for instance if a college hockey team played 3 scrimmages against a traveling US hockey team, they might be shown as 12-6-3 (13-8-3). Obviously it's their call, but something that presents all the data in a concise way would be nice.
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Interested to hear if the TBA peeps have given this thought in the past.
I actually thought TBA did this already (didn't realize we didn't until I went and checked ). So yeah, this is definitely a good idea.

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In sports, a lot of times they will present the official record with an unofficial record in parens, so for instance if a college hockey team played 3 scrimmages against a traveling US hockey team, they might be shown as 12-6-3 (13-8-3). Obviously it's their call, but something that presents all the data in a concise way would be nice.
I like this way of displaying it, maybe with an asterisk explaining the difference. This approach probably won't work for 2015 because the scores are already split between quals/elimsplayoffs averages, but we could come up with a creative solution to that.

Here's an issue to track the feature: https://github.com/the-blue-alliance...ce/issues/1549 - this is a pretty small change that would make a great starter task for someone who wants to get involved in TBA development
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I actually thought TBA did this already (didn't realize we didn't until I went and checked ). So yeah, this is definitely a good idea.


I like this way of displaying it, maybe with an asterisk explaining the difference. This approach probably won't work for 2015 because the scores are already split between quals/elimsplayoffs averages, but we could come up with a creative solution to that.

Here's an issue to track the feature: https://github.com/the-blue-alliance...ce/issues/1549 - this is a pretty small change that would make a great starter task for someone who wants to get involved in TBA development
I haven't been using TBA nearly as much lately, but I noticed this feature hadn't been implemented... not a big deal or anything, but I just figured I'd "bump" it.
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