Demonstration event robot comm

[phargo#1018]

Our team is heading off to a demonstration event this weekend. Probably not uncommon! The particular venue we will be at has lots of wireless communications. From past years, I expect that we will have wireless communications problems - especially when the crowd shows up.

What solutions have people identified for this situation?
Has anyone assembled an 'FMS light' for such events?

By 'FMS light' I imagine a single wireless router and configuration software such that each robot's radio (along with locking out all other MAC addresses!) can connect to the field and each team' control station can connect to that team's robot. Hopefully this description helps.

Thanks for comments!

[Cash4587]

Typically when we do demos with lots of wifi traffic we either use 5ghz or a different channel on 2.4ghz. Additionally I've seen other teams bridge their robot router to another router plugged into their laptop. If you password protect your wireless on your robot wireless, 5ghz usually is pretty secure as many standard laptops/phones cannot connect to it as they lack the antenna for it.

[AllenGregoryIV]

The simplest way is to just setup a router to connect to all the driver station laptops over Ethernet. Then configure the robot radios to bridge to that router. Make sure the router is setup for 5ghz and use a wifi analyzer app to find the cleanest frequency. Turn the wireless adapters on the laptops off like you do at the regional. You can put security on the wireless network and only distribute it to the teams or configure all the radios yourself if you want to be even more secure.

You could go as far as setting up the off-season FMS, this is much improved over the past few years. http://www.firstinspires.org/resourc...-season-events

That way you could start and stop matches, etc. The guide for the off-season FMS also has instructions on setting up the router and connecting robots, etc.

[frcguy]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

You could go as far as setting up the off-season FMS, this is much improved over the past few years. http://www.firstinspires.org/resourc...-season-events

That way you could start and stop matches, etc. The guide for the off-season FMS also has instructions on setting up the router and connecting robots, etc.

If you require an FMS, I highly recommend Cheesy Arena. It is extremely simple to configure as everything is done over a web browser, and it has great documentation and support from 254.

[phargo#1018]

Wow - I really appreciate the feedback.

I will look into all of these, as I can.

I typically don't dig into the network configurations behind the scenes.
How do all the control consoles coexist within a single subnet - at least I assume that they are on the same subnet.

I also don't know much about the radio configuration process. Everything is a mystery until you understand!

I don't think I am concerned about match scheduling, per-se; only an assured data link reliability.

Thank you again!

[frcguy]

Originally Posted by phargo#1018

Wow - I really appreciate the feedback.

I will look into all of these, as I can.

I typically don't dig into the network configurations behind the scenes.
How do all the control consoles coexist within a single subnet - at least I assume that they are on the same subnet.

I also don't know much about the radio configuration process. Everything is a mystery until you understand!

I don't think I am concerned about match scheduling, per-se; only an assured data link reliability.

Thank you again!

As far as Cheesy Arena, these links should answer some of your questions:

Network configuration: https://github.com/Team254/cheesy-ar...-Configuration

General instructions: https://github.com/Team254/cheesy-ar...ster/README.md

Programming the radio is done through the kiosk you would normally use at events, available here.

Also, if you have any questions or problems, the guys at 254 are extremely helpful and have been happy to answer any questions I've had about it.

[sgeckler]

Peter,

Can you post a summary of our demo experience last weekend? I thought what you put together worked awesome!

Sam

[frcguy]

Originally Posted by sgeckler

Peter,

Can you post a summary of our demo experience last weekend? I thought what you put together worked awesome!

Sam

I'm curious to see what you ended up going with and what worked as well, in case something like this comes up for us in the future.

[phargo#1018]

First off - thanks to all the suggestions I received.
Everything came off great!

I purchased a middle of the road router with dual-band capability.
Brought with me a set of Cat5 cables for the drivestations.
I made sure I had the latest radio configuration software.

The basic process was to
Setup the SSIDs for the two router bands,
Setup a WPA password for each band,
Change the admin password on the router,
Configure the router as 10.0.0.1 with a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0

The real key on radio setups was to use the 'FMS-Lite Mode' in 'Tools'.
Most of the radios took the configuration on the first pass.

I had forgotten to read up on the drive station configuration.
Once I set the IP address of the drive station to 10.TE.AM.6, everything worked fine!

Attached are the step-by-step instructions I created.
Replace my #1018 centric jargon with your own choices, and away you go!

One comment: Using an independent workstation to check for connected devices on the router was very helpful. That way I could verify wireless comm to the robots and cabled comm to the drive stations. This removed a lot of guesswork.

Have fun, good luck to all!