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I think you might consider Einsteins the equivalent of the Super Bowl... Champs itself is more like the play offs that lead up to it. And lets be completely honest, even a team as horrible as the Browns [1] makes it to the playoffs occasionally.
[1] I grew up in Ohio and am, unfortunately, a Browns fan ![]() |
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Does Dean refer to Championship as the Super Bowl of Smarts? Or FRC in general?
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"The Super Bowl of Smarts" has morphed into a bit of a colloquialism. I am sure Dean has referred to the Championship Event being "like a Super Bowl" in the past, and you can find articles about the Championship event being referred to as "The Super Bowl of Smarts." I have always agreed with using the tagline "The Varsity Sport for the Mind" and we will continue to use a less sanitized and fat-free vanilla version of that tag when we pitch our program. |
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I'm afraid to ask because I know the PayneTrain doesn't stop...but what is your less sanitized and fat-free vanilla version of that tag line?
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I'm also going to reiterate a point I made the last time this came up, that some people, who think this is a robot building contest, are in serious trouble--and that's actually from Dean or Woodie at Kickoff some years back. This is a robot building contest, yes--but it's also a bunch of life lessons, a passel of inspiration, and hopefully some recognition. It's also a pretty severe time sink... Treating it as just a robot building contest is not accurate. What I'd be hoping for would be 8 divisions, 50 teams each, NO MORE THAN 12 matches per team. (Wait, what?) Before you all start going crazy, I'd also say that no fewer than 10 matches would be acceptable. And the reason for that is to allow either more free time or less overall time. This would particularly benefit smaller teams, in that they could get out more and see more of the event, if the free time route was chosen, or that they might be able to cheat a little bit on travel and come in on Thursday morning with minimal loss of time in the pits. More inspiration, less time sink/burnout... interesting dilemma, I'd say. |
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We're well past the point about complaining that half champs is diluting the quality of the event. What I'm saying is that with an already diluted competition it would be idiotic to run 8 divisions and cause even further dilution. Not to mention the fact that it will put an even bigger strain on your volunteer base that you're already spreading too thin by holding 2 events in the first place. |
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I am pretty thankful that we usually do not have robot building contests because frankly I am very terrible at building robots but do what most would describe as a remotely passable job or at least a somewhat disguised impersonation of a coach for a competitive team. 12 matches per event in the district system is very much pushing many team's limits in terms of in-event upkeep and the time spent at the venue. I think the 12 matches per event is GREAT at the local level. For large scale travel, I think it could be considered a mistake. Quote:
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It's gonna be REALLY hard to get enough volunteers for what amounts to 16 events! If Jess pulls this off and can fill up both events they should put her in the hall of fame!
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And actually, it's eight events -- and then another eight events the next weekend. So Jess might (probably will) get half the number of volunteers for some roles, but those people will be twice as crazy. *CMP Volunteer of the Year is in the same rare stratum as Chairman's and WFA, in my book. |
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There's one thing that continues to be forgotten in this thread:
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I suggested this in the north vs south thread but perhaps we could see the return of a 2v2 format. This would create fewer qualifiers from Regionals, thus giving more room for growth (more waitlist teams initially though). 2v2 format with 50 team divisions wouldn't be AS bad. Or they could make everyone go crazy and try a 2v2v2 format (it's been done, I personally loved it, but most people didn't) and give us that magic 75 team 6 division setup, and play Einstein with some sort of round-robin format. Or we could do away with divisions and have top 32 and truck all 32 alliances to the dome and play all of the elim matches on Einstein. Last edited by Kevin Kolodziej : 27-06-2016 at 18:29. |
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As for 2v2v2... that could work for a 6-division championship format, but what about regional/district events? How do you make it work with 8 playoff alliances? Or would we have to decrease that to 6 as well? If you're going with a round-robin type format for Einstein, you can do that with a normal 3v3 and 6 divisions, no need to change the game format for it. |
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In other news, I think some reading of the '98 manual might be in order. (Feel free to go for the '97 and I think a couple before that, too--TechnoKats History Project has a wealth of information.) |
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