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The room for 1200 people in bleacher style seats and 400 parking spots is the biggest deal breaker I've seen when looking into venues. The next most common deal breaker is lack of pit space. |
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Most of the dupes should be fixed now.
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EDIT: Let me also share a picture from a smaller (district sized) regional, Tech Valley. In that picture, the pits are behind the curtain in a small auxiliary gym. Last edited by plnyyanks : 29-06-2016 at 15:31. |
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Rather than more words here on an ever-increasing chain, I've published a White Paper as summation of current status, and to refocus the topic. See it here:
California District Proposal White Paper: Refocusing the Conversations I've no interest in producing competing white papers, or being staid in my point of view. The District Model is meritorious. We have to find a way to implement it despite our multi-varied views. |
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Thank you for the well thought out white paper. I am excited to hear you see the benefits that a district model can bring to our FRC program in California, but even more excited to see many of considerations and proposals you have put forward in your post. I'd mostly be giving thumbs up if I tried to address your whole post, so I just wanted to address the proposals set out at the end, and keep the discussion moving forward. Quote:
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Initial thought: An outside Regional team could register for any CA event (after CA teams get their 1st and 2nd events locked), pays 5k for FIRST HQ, 1k gets kicked back to FIRST CA, and the only bummer is this outside FRC team plays at the event like a game of Who's Line is it Anyway, where the points don't matter and they don't qual for CMP. Throw stones -Mike |
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No sure about how this would affect slots for champs. I guess it depends on how many open slots there are versus district slots. |
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*By valid I mean the math would work out fine for South champ slots but maybe the international teams wouldn't be the happiest with their only event being a small district event. That being said, California and the rest of the southwest can't just be held hostage from going to districts forever so this is inevitable. This would likely put pressure to have more events overseas. |
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Many of CA regional events are already held in high school and community college gyms. If CA needs to not only be open to international teams, but also provide a 200k regional for them, I suppose our hands are tied I also agree, the pressure needs to be on international groups to serve their populous with more events closer to teams. -Mike |
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"Applying pressure" on overseas programs probably equates to killing them... I'd also be reluctant to travel to a mini-CVR/Ventura type event and probably end up switching to Vex. Running a domestic team is hard enough.
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Having said all that, it's totally acceptable for the leaders of FRC California to mostly or completely ignore the needs of international teams. It's a FIRST HQ problem. |
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I'm pointing out that, from my point of view on the ground, it's not going to be easy. I also happen to be largely unable to help, because I work insane hours. But if you're going to say that, then you also need to GET DOWN HERE and see what it's like. I have no more to say on that. Quote:
Mike and Pauline--check your PMs in a couple of minutes. |
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I assume international teams are represented in FIRST HQ? Does Israel, Australia or China have an RD or the like? These individuals (if they exist!) should be doing the work to ensure their programs can be sustained outside of California events. If there is no representation for international teams currently at HQ, that leadership should be established soon, because their available event pool is shrinking every year. CA moving to districts is just one part of that. -Mike |
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There are a ton of possibilities...
Overall, I agree with Basal that this is primarily an HQ problem (although I personally like option 1c) |
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