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Congrats Pauline! There's a chance, that maybe, you know something
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And nice passive-agressive comment about safety glasses. Has anyone on here said a 20 year old was limited only to the safety glasses table and not capable of doing more? |
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THAT'S ENOUGH. Basel, I wasn't referring to Pauline, but the group in general. And in a very general way. In an explanation of why I was saying what I was saying. OK? Do I have to go to Thing Explainer? If you guys are going to snip at every little thing I say, then it's really, really starting to feel like I'm being harassed/bullied. Last I checked, that sort of thing was frowned on around here. Again, THAT'S ENOUGH. |
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I really do wish this thread was the productive discussion it was earlier.
It's really unfortunate that so many people put such hard work into creating the document, finding venues, and more to just be shot down or argued with for reasons that are not valid. This thread could have been something where California could really figure out how to make our region the best, and how to transition the easiest way we could. Thank you to everyone in here who has offered constructive advice. From other districts to people from California offering venues. The advice has really helped me shape what I think our region should become. Thank you so much, can't wait for you guys to push us even farther in our journey into districts! -Pauline Last edited by Pauline Tasci : 30-06-2016 at 21:52. |
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Private messaging is a great conduit to transmit information to people who want it and is a channel I have and will continue to use (mostly outside of this website). It offers an opportunity to exchange experiences and share advice from scenarios that may be analogous or parallel to those of another party. It definitely is a time to remember 3 things before someone wakes up a moderator and enacts a mercy killing of the thread: -Perception is reality. -The exchanges of ideas are a two way street. -Be conscious of your intended actions and even more conscious of unintended consequences of those actions (Believe it or not, I am very conscious of these things, which probably constitutes a personal health hazard). Thanks to Michael Corsetto and everyone who has exchanged ideas on the topic whether it be critical, supportive, or statistical. |
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What impact would going to districts have on California in terms of championship percentage? For purposes of an easy answer, compare to last year's number.
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It is on page 2 of the District 101 document which is a nice read. I encourage you to read it because it has a lot of other information also.
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But really, you're going to drag out something posted 3 months ago about Minnesota into a thread about California? Why don't we keep those discussions separated and focus on actual productive posts. That's, literally, the only thing I've been asking for in all my posts in this thread. Because, believe it or not, I'm interested in the issues other areas are/have faced, the solutions they've used to solve them, and the results they've seen over the long run. It may be applicable to my area in the future. |
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And thanks to all who are toning down the rhetoric, focusing on the actualities. Basis of agreement: --Many venues acceptable to FRC events, with adequate playing space and co-located pits. --Numerous site and district administrators supportive of this kind of education, willing to take risks with these events. --The volunteer issue is a problem that can be solved, though again the current volunteer pool is stretched beyond breaking. I appreciate all those outside the region for their strategic comments on helping solve the difficulty, though the perspective from "outside" cannot grasp the tactical difficulties on the ground (not a put-down of helpful ideas). -- Admin are not Hell Bent against FRC. They're mostly ignorant (not the pejorative ignorant; merely not cognizant of what FRC MEANS, as opposed to what FRC IS). Admin are consumed by a hundred issues that occupy their time, and it's rare to find one who can take a portion of their day and focus on the structural needs of an outside entity (FRC) To continue the discussion: --Finding supportive admin with adequate facilities located where they are needed most: central locations for local teams. This takes legwork, and might merely be what Andrew/Data Nerd suggests: asking. This asking I think should start at the team level at the local school. Oops-gotta run. Getting a mill and lathe and junk donated to us and can't wait… Think we're getting close, though want success the first time out. Joe |
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I'd actually suggest centrally coordinating the ask. Even if the actual ask is delegated down to a local team rep having multiple people asking could get REALLY annoying. Also it allows for having a central list of questions to ask about the venue. I'd suggest trying to see if any existing district has a starting list of requirements. Brando I assume you're floating around here, do you know if NE has one? |
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Dealing with administration:
As getting administration excited can be difficult, it might be worthwhile to get some quotes comments from some of the long term FiM venues. There was one principle or Administrator that asked to speak at one of the events I attended. This was the second year for the event. He said something to the effect that the previous year he was unsure. He had never seen an event before. When he watched the playoffs Saturday afternoon, it literally brought tears to his eyes. He had never seen his gym so alive before. There was crazy uproar during key matches. There was singing and dancing from 30+ schools that clearly were competing but also a common family. There were opponents helping each other get ready for the next match. Other quotes I have heard from administrators: I got to meet political leader XYZ and or industry leader XYZ and give a speech to the same group as them. I got 30 different school districts to come and see what my school had to offer. In Michigan, we have a lot of venues that have now been doing it for years, and there is a lot of pride the venue administrators take in their event. It might be good to ask the leaders of other districts for a "reference list" or administrators that might be good spokespersons. Often those on the inside can come across as giving a sales pitch where as someone with equal position can help discuss concerns at the same level. ************************************************** ** On the negative: We also have some 1 hit wonders. I think "floor damage" concerns are one of the primary causes for a venue to not want teams back, though you would have to talk to the FiM management for reasons they don't go back to a venue. I know at least a few of them were dealing with floor damage concerns. Though that is not the only reason. ************************************************** *** Another item on venues. FIRST really does follow a field of dreams "If you build it they will come" trend. What I mean by this is within a region, you may want a couple "stretch" venues that might not be the center of the current population. Once a new venue arrives, the local area tends to start a lot more teams. The proximity gives them a cheap option to play at (no hotel), and nothing gets people as excited about a FIRST event as seeing it live. While I would not make every venue remote, it might be a good idea to target a couple areas that could use a shot in the arm. |
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TL;DR: GET YOUR ADMINISTRATION TO EVENTS!!! |
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This is sent from the InF Competition Committee to prospective hosts (usually teams) and they can use it for discussions with their school's administrators. |
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