Go to Post Brandon Martus, making CD readers' lives easier since May 2001/Fall 98 - Beth Sweet [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 11:27
Libby K's Avatar
Libby K Libby K is offline
Always a MidKnight Inventor.
FRC #1923 (The MidKnight Inventors)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 1992
Location: West Windsor, NJ
Posts: 1,577
Libby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond reputeLibby K has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto View Post
Thanks for the sounds advice Jenny!

Can you elaborate on the role of the VC in districts?

How do they communicate volunteer needs across events?

Is there a different VC for every district event, or do some perform the role of VC at multiple events?

Is there one "master VC" in the district to help coordinate all the volunteer efforts within the district?

Thanks!

-Mike
In FIRST Mid-Atlantic, each event has their own VC, including the DCMP. We also have a VC Coordinator who serves as a coordination point for all the VCs in the region, and helps out where needed, especially training new VCs as they adjust to their role.

In and out of season, the group of district VCs get together on conference calls and quite a few email chains to sync up on any issues or new instructions from FIRST that may come up. We're also connected via a few email chains & encouraged to check in if we need more people for an event (especially trained roles - We had some referees drop last-minute before Montgomery this year and being able to email the other VCs with 'can you contact your referees and see if they're free, pretty please?' was a godsend), or to report after our event on any hiccups, or things future-week VC's could help streamline for the upcoming events.
__________________
Libby Kamen
Team 1923: The MidKnight Inventors
2006-2009: Founder, Captain, Operator, Regional Champion.
2010-Always: Proud Alumni, Mentor & Drive Coach. 2015 Woodie Flowers Finalist Award.

-
229: Division By Zero / 4124: Integration by Parts
2010-2013: Clarkson University Mentor for FLL, FTC & FRC

-
FIRST Partner Associate, United Therapeutics
#TeamUnither | facebook, twitter & instagram | @unitherFIRST

-
questions? comments? concerns? | twitter: @libbyk | about.me/libbykamen
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 14:18
jpetito jpetito is offline
jpetito
AKA: Joe Petito
FRC #1197 (TorBots)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 75
jpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to behold
Re: California District Proposal

On the continuing line of Volunteer C's:

Is there a body willing at this time to step up to the task? I ask because if we want some minimal District roll-out in 2018, names and titles and skills must go in the org chart in order to pull it off with a fine degree of Professionalism.

It wouldn't hurt too to have a like-minded person/group who would like to take on the several off-season FRC events so there is minimal clash of dates and locations. Unfortunate that Chezy Champs and Fall Classic conflict.

Off-season events in the CA:

Chezy Champs by FRC 254
Battle at the Border by FRC 1538
MadTown Throwdown by FRC 2073
CalGames
Capital City Classic?
Fall Classic by FRC 4470 & LA Robotics
Spring Scrimmage by FRC 4470 & LA Robotics

Did I miss any? Don't think the list is up to date. (and spelling?) Need some help from the research-minded.

Joe Petito
Machinist
__________________
Author of: Ditching Shop Class; How Educators Feed the Achievement Gap, @ Barns&Noble.com
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 14:21
bkahl's Avatar
bkahl bkahl is offline
Make Champs Great Again
AKA: Bailey Kahl
FRC #0125 (NUTRONS)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 461
bkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond reputebkahl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpetito View Post
Battle at the Border by FRC 1538
and 2485
__________________
Team 125
College Student/Whatever Brando says
Team 195
Alumni
Facebook
EWCP
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 14:23
jpetito jpetito is offline
jpetito
AKA: Joe Petito
FRC #1197 (TorBots)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 75
jpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to behold
Re: California District Proposal

Thanxx Bailey!

Joe
__________________
Author of: Ditching Shop Class; How Educators Feed the Achievement Gap, @ Barns&Noble.com
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 14:25
Michael Corsetto's Avatar
Michael Corsetto Michael Corsetto is offline
Breathe in... Breathe out...
FRC #1678 (Citrus Circuits)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2004
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Davis, CA
Posts: 1,119
Michael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Collin Fultz View Post
Indiana has Carolyn Beyer as the Chair of our Volunteer Committee, member of the BOD, and "master" VC. She helps manage the VC's for our district events and helps place key volunteers at each event.

Having her in this position also makes it easier for new event VC's, since she can use her experience to help mentor the new VC.
Quote:
Originally Posted by IKE View Post
In Michigan, each event has a VC, though many VCs cover more than one event, especially in SE Michigan where the events are much closer together.

In Michigan, due to the number of events, we have also been assigning key position leads. These leads help with organizing key volunteer coverage for events as well as mentor for the new key volunteers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Libby K View Post
In FIRST Mid-Atlantic, each event has their own VC, including the DCMP. We also have a VC Coordinator who serves as a coordination point for all the VCs in the region, and helps out where needed, especially training new VCs as they adjust to their role.

In and out of season, the group of district VCs get together on conference calls and quite a few email chains to sync up on any issues or new instructions from FIRST that may come up. We're also connected via a few email chains & encouraged to check in if we need more people for an event (especially trained roles - We had some referees drop last-minute before Montgomery this year and being able to email the other VCs with 'can you contact your referees and see if they're free, pretty please?' was a godsend), or to report after our event on any hiccups, or things future-week VC's could help streamline for the upcoming events.
Huge thank you to each of you for the valuable feedback!

It seems like some sort of "Chair of the Volunteer Committee" or "VC Coordinator" role is important to manage the existing volunteer base and help out new VC's as they develop. Does the individual in this "VC management" role also VC an event, or do they remain as purely top-level organizational support?

Also seems like mixed results on whether or not VC's cover multiple events, although it seems that a unique VC for each event would minimize the load.

Thanks again for all the help!

-Mike
__________________
Team 1678: Citrus Circuits - Lead Technical Mentor, Drive Coach **Like Us On Facebook!**
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 14:44
jpetito jpetito is offline
jpetito
AKA: Joe Petito
FRC #1197 (TorBots)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 75
jpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to behold
Re: California District Proposal

Hi Michael C:

For the org chart thing:

Would it be safe to say the large part of us in the discussion have our fingers on the robots of local teams? The next level is an organization like (in my case) LA Robotics-- or VEX, or FLL/FTC, BotBall, various Arduino groups, Maker groups, etc.

A possibility: the Volunteer Coordinator on the state level would be something of an intelligence gathering and disseminating position/organization, having contact with the individuals/groups sponsoring the events themselves. We again return to the stretching of volunteers.

Not an aficionado of politics, I'm out of the loop of BIG FRC decision making. Who is it in the Cal who makes decisions on dates/sites for events?

Joe
Building Contractor
__________________
Author of: Ditching Shop Class; How Educators Feed the Achievement Gap, @ Barns&Noble.com
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 15:15
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,609
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

One other note on the whole "scheduling offseasons" thing:

There was one year that a whole bunch of offseasons were back-to-back-to-back and using the same field. Could be really nice to run that system again, and send any robots competing week-to-week along with the field (maybe in caravan).


On the VC element, I know there's some VCs who cover multiple events, but in most of those cases that I'm aware of, they're working with other VCs who are only doing one event. And at at least one regional, there are two VCs, just for that regional, independent of anybody coming in to work with them.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 15:23
smurfgirl smurfgirl is offline
Still a New Englander on the inside
AKA: Ellen McIsaac
FRC #5012 (Gryffingear)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Palmdale, CA
Posts: 1,725
smurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond reputesmurfgirl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

To minimize volunteer workload and prevent burnout, ideally we would have unique VCs for each District Event in California. Being a VC is a lot of work, especially for brand new events.

Also, if/when we switch to Districts in CA, if we bring events to new locations not currently near any regionals, and we involve mentors/volunteers from those areas in the event planning committees, we should be able to tap into new pools of volunteers. I know there are a lot of people here in the Antelope Valley, for example, who would be great key volunteers. I am sure the same applies to other areas around the state.
__________________
Ellen McIsaac
Team 1124 ÜberBots 2005-2015
Team 5012 Gryffingear 2015+
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 15:36
Pauline Tasci's Avatar
Pauline Tasci Pauline Tasci is offline
Rockets and Robots
FRC #3476 (Code Orange)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 300
Pauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond reputePauline Tasci has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Just a note, VC is a very difficult job that involves a lot of work, constant updating, and constant push to get more volunteers. For OCR, we had a new VC, (who did an amazing job and got us everyone we needed) but I wish she would have people under her so it was not just her trying to facilitate everything. That's actually something we plan to implement on the RPC. I would really love to see more than one VC at one event. Taking an intense load off one person and spreading it out makes people more likely to help out. And that fact is true with most large volunteer roles.
__________________
Team 3476 Code Orange- 2014-? ~ Head Mechanical and Design Mentor
FIRST Orange County 2015-? ~Regional Planning Committee Member
Beach Blitz 2016-? ~ Event Chair/Director
FIRST Volunteer-2010-?
Team 589 Falkon Robotics- 2010-2013 ~Captain, Driver, Outreach, Mech Lead
CD Moderator~ Always feel free to PM me.
Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 16:00
Michael Corsetto's Avatar
Michael Corsetto Michael Corsetto is offline
Breathe in... Breathe out...
FRC #1678 (Citrus Circuits)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2004
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Davis, CA
Posts: 1,119
Michael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Corsetto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauline Tasci View Post
Just a note, VC is a very difficult job that involves a lot of work, constant updating, and constant push to get more volunteers. For OCR, we had a new VC, (who did an amazing job and got us everyone we needed) but I wish she would have people under her so it was not just her trying to facilitate everything. That's actually something we plan to implement on the RPC. I would really love to see more than one VC at one event. Taking an intense load off one person and spreading it out makes people more likely to help out. And that fact is true with most large volunteer roles.
Great feedback, it seems like VC's working in a vacuum can be burdensome. While doubling up (or more) is one good way to go, it seems like some top level support (especially to arrange KV's, etc) could also help lessen the load.

Not saying doubling up your OCR VC is a bad idea, just proposing that the model other regions operate could produce similar results.

Both seem like fair options, the obvious challenge of the "double up" approach is finding more KVs. Please let us know how 2+ KV's works for OCR!

In general, I'm hoping we can organize a push to double up KV roles at 2017 CA Regionals, or at least have a KV and one or two "shadows" in each role. We can grow our Volunteer base in preparation for the transition, but growing the pool in general seems like a healthy goal no matter what. This 2+ KV approach that is OCR is taking seems like a great way to grow the volunteer base.

Thanks!

-Mike
__________________
Team 1678: Citrus Circuits - Lead Technical Mentor, Drive Coach **Like Us On Facebook!**
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 16:56
Jon Stratis's Avatar
Jon Stratis Jon Stratis is offline
Electrical/Programming Mentor
FRC #2177 (The Robettes)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,706
Jon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauline Tasci View Post
Just a note, VC is a very difficult job that involves a lot of work, constant updating, and constant push to get more volunteers. For OCR, we had a new VC, (who did an amazing job and got us everyone we needed) but I wish she would have people under her so it was not just her trying to facilitate everything. That's actually something we plan to implement on the RPC. I would really love to see more than one VC at one event. Taking an intense load off one person and spreading it out makes people more likely to help out. And that fact is true with most large volunteer roles.
If you can't find additional people to serve as VC "assistants" (we have a few of those here in MN helping our primary VC with each event), recruit your key volunteers to help the VC. While a VC may be in charge of the entire event, having the LRI, Head Ref, Field Supervisor, and other such positions actively helping with recruitment can go a long way. I personally maintain a list of people that have inspected in MN in the past few years so I can approach them again this fall when our 4 events are scheduled. From past experience, that is usually good enough for ~80% of our inspector needs - recruiting the last 1-2 people for each event is a lot easier than coming in and seeing a need to recruit 10!

In addition to the list I keep, as an LRI I get to interact with a TON of mentors in the pits, and actively help recruit new volunteers from those interactions - I've found plenty of inspectors and CSA's that way!
__________________
2007 - Present: Mentor, 2177 The Robettes
LRI: North Star 2012-2016; Lake Superior 2013-2014; MN State Tournament 2013-2014, 2016; Galileo 2016; Iowa 2017
2015: North Star Regional Volunteer of the Year
2016: Lake Superior WFFA
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 21:00
Deetman Deetman is offline
Registered User
AKA: Kevin Dieterle
no team
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 200
Deetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond reputeDeetman has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

To elaborate on Libby's post, FIRST Mid-Atlantic continues to work towards having a "coordinator" for each of the key volunteer roles (FTA, Field Supervisors, Head Refs, LRI, etc) that helps take some of the burden off of VCs by identifying volunteers, spreading them out to events, and working training of new individuals in the roles. We're far from perfecting it, but it does seem to be helping so far.

One additional "role" that isn't traditional for FRC and I'm not sure if any other areas do it is the "MAR Equipment Representative (MER)". MERs are volunteers with a thorough knowledge of all of the MAR equipment and assets. These personnel share some responsibility with the event FTA for supervision of equipment unloading and load out as well as field set-up and teardown. By having this, the burden on local event committees and the FTA is lessened and allows more work to be done in parallel (ex. MER is loading cases in the PODS outside while the FTA is finishing packing and OKing cases inside). This role is especially important for our offseason events as they do not always have the same volunteer level of experience as official events.
__________________

FIRST Mid-Atlantic Volunteer (2012-present)
Team 1014 Alumni (2004-2005)
Team 1712 Mentor (2011-2015)
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-07-2016, 22:24
jpetito jpetito is offline
jpetito
AKA: Joe Petito
FRC #1197 (TorBots)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 75
jpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to beholdjpetito is a splendid one to behold
Re: California District Proposal

Distillation of points:

* What we do now in the CA is pretty good, with provisos.
* Going to the district model means we do more of it, to equal high standards, meanwhile acquiring the volunteers to make it so.
* The District model in the CA will be idiosyncratic, in that it will probably not conform to what's happening in the MI., MA, IN, etc. It will be helpful that those there understand that we (not the exclusive "we") must make the thing work in our weird environment:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...nap-story.html

Variables and outstanding obstacles:

* Corporate sponsorship: educate my ignorance-- teams go to two District events for the same entry price. Do the fees paid by teams fund their two venue plays, and the event contracting and facilities costs are covered? Or is there need for more cash, thus more fundraising?
* Going after sponsorship, as was done for the last few years for the LA Regional in Long Beach-- how do we coordinate not stepping on one another's outreach entreaties while we grub for the cash? The money pile is so enormous that I can visualize districts competing with one another for sponsors, not conducive to the Gracious Professionalism we aspire to.
*Event scheduling globally (within CA., with input by NV., AZ., HI., Chile, MEX) so as to avoid conflicts. These western states have their own ways of doing things...

We all despise more meetings. Looks like we have to have more meetings.

Joe Petito
Wind Turbine Mechanic
__________________
Author of: Ditching Shop Class; How Educators Feed the Achievement Gap, @ Barns&Noble.com
Reply With Quote
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-07-2016, 07:25
Unsung FIRST Hero
RoboMom RoboMom is offline
people expediter on Team Kluge
AKA: Jenny Beatty, no relation
no team (they are all my teams)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,065
RoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Wow. Usually bringing up the role of the Volunteer Coordinator is a thread killer.

There is actually an "official" role for Districts with the title of "Senior Volunteer Coordinator". The position description from HQ leaves a lot to be desired (doesn't take any planning into account for starters). Attached.

I spent hundreds of hours doing this role.

What I discovered going into the roll out of FIRST Chesapeake this past season was that documentation from other areas was sparse, other District VCs were generous to share, and that everyone was doing things a bit differently. What works for a single Regional doesn't for Districts. Communication and "pitching in" around volunteer coordination to help across each of the events to benefit the District as a whole is vital. The VCs really do need to work together.

I recruited and trained 4 VC's (3 local events and District CMP) for Maryland/DC which was my assigned territory. Truthfully not sure how it was done in VA where I had a counterpart. Merging MD/DC/VA this year had a lot of positives, especially for the teams. And some major heartache for those of us tasked with planning HOW to do things, organizing, documenting and especially communicating across 2 regions who had been doing their own thing quite capably for years. (Shout out to Anne Shade who documented the whole process for roll out of our District events in MD/DC.)

I brought all the VC's together once in-person and we had phone meetings on a regular basis. The VC's worked in partnership with other "Senior" positions for their assigned District event- Senior Head Ref(s), Senior LRI, Senior Judge Advisor(s), FTA pool. Recruitment was a team effort between me, the Seniors and the VC's. The Seniors signed off on any key position before any assignment was made and we utilized shared document files and lots of color coding as we moved along. And like MAR we had "Equipment/Logistics" role - someone designated to be the lead for all the stuff. For MD/DC events we also had Event Managers who worked together on some things across the events - like a common caterer for volunteer food.

I have a lot I could write here. I learned a tremendous amount this past year. In Maryland, I am the overall Volunteer Director where I work with all 4 programs and cross-program volunteering is something I pay attention to. (Note: one of the VCs actually came from the FLL world where he was a VC. Two were FRC alumni and the 4th had worked with me on the Chesapeake Regional and agreed to cover the District CMP.)I do lots of broad level recruitment with companies and organizations, and I offer the total "buffet" of programs. There are so many factors that go into a decision where/when/what to volunteer and we need to think outside of the current pool.

I think it is important to have a Senior VC(s) for a District. Sometimes it is hard keeping up with all the conference calls and updates coming from HQ and the job starts in Sept. so good to have one person covering. And I dealt with all the issues with the VIMS/VMS.

It is also important to have one person be the "heavy". For example, one of the unexpected challenges was gearing up positions for 7 District events all leading into one District CMP meant not everyone could have the job they wanted/deserved at the CMP. I had to turn away over 30 volunteers. It was very stressful, and there are volunteers who yelled at me and criticized me in public and in feedback. I took this on, but it was hard. My idea of the perfect volunteer is the one who checks their ego at the door and says "assign me as needed". And means it. You will get the adult beverage of your choice from me and my gratitude. I have stories! About team players and about prima donnas (definition: a very temperamental person with an inflated view of their own talent or importance".

But I digress.

We used the offseason Battle O'Baltimore last year to train a VC as well as some other key positions.

It is gratifying to see this conversation. Happy to answer any questions.
__________________
Co-Founder of NEMO (Non-Engineering Mentor Organization) www.firstnemo.org
Volunteer Director, STEMaction, Inc. www.stemaction.org
FIRST Senior Mentor: Nov. 2004 to June 2009: "Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again"
This is How I Work: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2862

Last edited by RoboMom : 07-07-2016 at 04:27.
Reply With Quote
  #15   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-07-2016, 14:05
Mr V's Avatar
Mr V Mr V is offline
FIRST Senior Mentor Washington
FRC #5588 (Reign)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Maple Valley Wa
Posts: 989
Mr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond repute
Re: California District Proposal

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpetito View Post


Variables and outstanding obstacles:

* Corporate sponsorship: educate my ignorance-- teams go to two District events for the same entry price. Do the fees paid by teams fund their two venue plays, and the event contracting and facilities costs are covered? Or is there need for more cash, thus more fundraising?
* Going after sponsorship, as was done for the last few years for the LA Regional in Long Beach-- how do we coordinate not stepping on one another's outreach entreaties while we grub for the cash? The money pile is so enormous that I can visualize districts competing with one another for sponsors, not conducive to the Gracious Professionalism we aspire to.
*Event scheduling globally (within CA., with input by NV., AZ., HI., Chile, MEX) so as to avoid conflicts. These western states have their own ways of doing things...

We all despise more meetings. Looks like we have to have more meetings.

Joe Petito
Wind Turbine Mechanic
In the Regional System all of your $5000 initial (and $4000) registration fee goes to FIRST HQ. The actual event costs are payed for with the funds raised by the RD. Note FIRST HQ does act as a back stop and will step in and provide the remaining funds for a Regional if there is a shortfall.

In the District System $1000 of your initial registration fee is given to the District and the district keeps all 3rd play $1000 registration fees.

The typical district event costs between $10k and $30k to produce while the typical Regional starts at $100~200K and can cost significantly more than that in places where the cost of the venue is high. The typical District Championship runs around the price of a Regional

This is what FIRST is talking about when they say that Districts are cheaper than Regionals. So putting on say 10 district events and a DCMP can cost about the same as putting on 2 Regionals. Note this does vary greatly because venue costs vary greatly as well.

Switching to the District System alleviates those stepped on toes since the fund raising is for the entire district instead of for what may be one of multiple Regionals which may have different RDs in a general geographic area. Note you will find that some districts events the host team may find a local sponsor to provide food, coffee, or bottled water for the volunteers.

Concerning scheduling you really only have to worry about the timing of the events in your District and do not have to worry about neighboring Districts or Regionals. Non District teams are not allowed to compete in a District event and the few teams that choose to do an inter-district play just have to figure out what works with the home events they wish to attend out of the available remaining spaces.

In the Regional system FIRST owns the fields so scheduling around other events so that a field is available in the area is important, as well as the desire to allow teams to compete at 2 events if desired. You don't want two Regionals in the same general area to happen on the same weekend.

With the district system the "normal sized" District typically owns two fields and it is common for 2 events to happen the same weekend. Smaller districts like IN will only have one field and one event per weekend while FiM has 3 or more events per weekend and the corresponding number of fields.
__________________
All statements made on Chief Delphi by me are my own opinions and are not official FIRST rulings or opinions and should not be construed as such.




https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-...77508782410839
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:38.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi