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How could they be able to do that??? ![]() About live-action video, I think it should be ok if it is used in conjuction with 3D, to a certian degree. Example: If the foreground is composed mostly of live-action people, and the background is all CGI that is comparable to FF and SW, then I would have to say that, in my opinion, it can be considered animated. Even better, having live-action people in contact (I know there is a better way of saying that but I can't think of it right now) with CGI caricters. Example: The scene in Episode II when OB1 is hugging Dex. |
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This thread is turning into a "let's bash 967 for winning" sour grapes fest.
Let's all back up for a minute and think about how to air our grievances without attacking a team that did nothing wrong than submit in a work. Just becuase it doesn't meet your standards does not give everyone licsence to beat on these kids. Let's remember gracious porfessionalism please. |
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I Agree with ED. There is no reason to insult anyone. As long as my previous post was, I tried my best to not insult anyone. I hope I succeeded, please have the same cutesy- As we can all find issues with each of our animations. I know we have issues because we ran out of time and couldn't re-render the final changes we actually made. Show me any animation and I can tell you how to improve it. So no stone throwing.
Thanks ED and all! |
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I tried editing my other post, but it wouldn't let me attach.
I agree with you <EDIT>On both of your posts</EDIT> totaly, stevek. The only major problem is the camera angles. I have attached a pic of two of our team members where the background has been removed and replaced by a CGI background. <EDIT> I hope I didn't offend anybody with my posts. </EDIT> Last edited by LBK Rules : 14-04-2003 at 12:01. |
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Well....
Thanks for the narrating comment, the narrator by the way is the man from the jeep commercials, he did it for FREE. As for not being worthy our vid crew was amazed we won because of the lack of animation, but as I pointed out to them the idea was solid, narrating was good and the maybe the 10 sec of video was very high quality compared to others. The chain on the robot and the tubs were hard from what I've heard. And like it said, Expect the Un-expected, how often do you see complete animation in any kind of serious video? Autodesk in my opinion is one little tool in many. For example the video and sound that was in the video came from tons of hours and hard work. I think the award has risen the bar, now teams must think of things like cinematography, live video, GOOD narrating, etc. Not just 30 sec. of animation that looks cool. Any way that is one of my points of view. I'm still kind of shocked we won it too!
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6.3 Scoring Criteria
Content Communication (40pts) - Distinction in the use of design and animation to illustrate and communicate a specific aspect of what FIRST means to your team. Entries are measured in terms of how well your team clearly and accurately articulates that aspect of FIRST. Drawing from your team members, your school and corporate partnership, your community involvement, and/or your robot: Illustrate and communicate a specific aspect of what FIRST means to your team. Using graphic imagery and animation developed with 3ds max™ (as well as other Autodesk products if you wish), create an informative and clearly focused 30 second spot about a particularly appealing or effective aspect of FIRST. You must include a statement in your animation as to what “appealing aspect of FIRST” you are trying to communicate. Think of what you are producing as being a 30 second “spot” that might be intended for use on national television to inform viewers about FIRST and to illustrate a specific aspect of the benefits of the FIRST experience. Examples of Appealing Aspects of FIRST: Mentorship, Collaboration, Leadership and/or Community. Compelling Creativity (40pts) - Distinction in the use of design and animation to generate excitement about your team’s experience with FIRST. The challenge is to tell a compelling, creative story about what FIRST means to your team, about your team or your robot, or about your team’s participation in The Competition – and to make that story memorable. We measure in terms of how well your team identifies a concept and organizes the content for your 30-second story, and by how well your team executes on that concept and creates a distinctive and memorable spot – one that stands out from the rest. Technical Execution (20pts) - Distinction in the application of Autodesk software. The challenge is to demonstrate how skillfully you use specific Autodesk products and how your final animation is brought together from storyboard through design, production, editing, adding FX and sound, and post-production to final product. Entries are measured in terms of how well your team uses modeling, materials application, lighting, camera motion and angles, sound effects, texture mapping, color, special FX, character animation, editing technique, voice over, music, photography, or live video.or live video. |
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I know our team (75) tried really hard to work on content communication with a creative twist. ( http://stage.itmediaco.com/roboraide...le=Team75_2003 )
Team 967's was really good, but I just don't know if their 3D was ambitious enough. We attempted a fully CGI character that would be on screen for 25 seconds! Lots of voice acting! Do you think autodesk would not consider us because we won inventor? Honorable mentions should be back next year, because all the other teams that worked hard on their animation should get some recognition. Anyways, congrats to team 967, it was still an awesome clip! |
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That said- I do want to congratulate your Entire Team. You entered, you were judged, and you won. So CONGRATS |
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i didn't go to nationals but i did see this great animation that won at west michigan regional. team number 74. they had the best animation i have ever seen for FIRST. the textures, shading, lighting, and animation itself was excellent. the stuck with the theme of theirs and with the theme of FIRST. I don't think anyone was angry about them winning. they were the best and i would have been angry if anyone else won...even my team. they were that good.
Team # 74 YOU GUYS DID AN AWESOME JOB ON YOUR ANIMATION!!!!!!!!! from all of team 902 |
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Does anyone have a copy of the winning/runner up animations?
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Autodesk pretty much asked for a commercial. I would definitely say the animation that won was one hell of a commercial.
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oh yeah, I hope we can finally upload ours somewhere.... |
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Aside from the winning animation lacking 3d stuff, it brings up an interesting idea. Maybe next year FIRST should have a commercial contest. Autodesk makes combustion which would be perfect for doing a real professional job. The benefits could be that the commercials show people on FIRST teams and the commercials could be used as promotions for FIRST. 967 definitely had a great commercial, a little more so than an animation.
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T967, is there any way you can post a copy of your animation? Some of us poor mentors weren't able to make it out to Houston..
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