Future FRC Technologies?

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by MasterMentor

While that would seem useful during the match, what would then constitute a replay? If the updated score/details didn't make it to your system within 10ms? 100ms? 1000ms? If the data wasn't updating on your DS because your DS was either AT or NEARLY AT maximum CPU utilization (and how would you prove that?!)? Would anyone then easily accept a backup DS from the FTA?

I do agree that having the data published to the DS in the same manner that the match timer is published to the DS would be considerably beneficial, but I'm not sure that it would be reasonable to *depend* on that data in-match. But, even unofficially, it could be incredibly useful to have that data in real-ish-time.

-George

The FTAs have to make a replay call as it is on a whole host of issues that may pop up during a match. It could easily be said in the rules, that this system is not guaranteed to work. Also this information is already available on the field network (not to robots and DS) but to computers running the Audience Display software.

People have custom driver station software as it is, that makes running a backup DS less than optimal but teams still do it when they have to. Also the majority of teams would not utilize this feature, just like the majority of teams don't use custom dashboard widgets, etc.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

The FTAs have to make a replay call as it is on a whole host of issues that may pop up during a match. It could easily be said in the rules, that this system is not guaranteed to work. Also this information is already available on the field network (not to robots and DS) but to computers running the Audience Display software.

People have custom driver station software as it is, that makes running a backup DS less than optimal but teams still do it when they have to. Also the majority of teams would not utilize this feature, just like the majority of teams don't use custom dashboard widgets, etc.

Allen's pretty close.

Replays, per FRC 2016 rules, are given if the following conditions are met:
--Field Fault. (FTA determination, usually)
--Affects the Outcome of the Match. (Head Ref/FTA determination--primarily Head Ref)
--Requested by Affected Team.

I think that for the most part, and without seeing the technology in place... Probably many requests would fail on the "affecting the outcome" part of that. The ones that were, actually, a field fault, that is.


On top of that, there is sort of a "standard warning" that many game announcers apply that the shown scores may not be accurate at any given time, and are not final.

[Bkeeneykid]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

The FTAs have to make a replay call as it is on a whole host of issues that may pop up during a match. It could easily be said in the rules, that this system is not guaranteed to work. Also this information is already available on the field network (not to robots and DS) but to computers running the Audience Display software.

People have custom driver station software as it is, that makes running a backup DS less than optimal but teams still do it when they have to. Also the majority of teams would not utilize this feature, just like the majority of teams don't use custom dashboard widgets, etc.

I think it would fall under the same ruling as the current method getting match time through code. Don't rely on it, it's not legal for replays, and use it at your risk.

Source: http://wpilib.screenstepslive.com/s/...input-overview