IRI Alliances

[Mike Schreiber]

Originally Posted by jajabinx124

That and I don't think many teams take scouting seriously as they do during the actual season. This allows for many teams to be overlooked IMO and welcomes some teams picking based on familiarity and bias.

Yes and no. We didn't exactly scout like we do in season, but we had a lot of notes. You also have to consider that some teams were running new drivers which drastically impacted performance.

[krtanjek]

Originally Posted by jajabinx124

That and I don't think many teams take scouting seriously as they do during the actual season. This allows for many teams to be overlooked IMO and welcomes some teams picking based on familiarity and bias.

We take scouting pretty seriously, we believe scouting during any competition is important for developing strategy for qualification matches as well as providing data for picking or helping alliance partners when you are picked.

We take pride in the data that is gathered by our scouts and attribute a lot of our recent success to having the data to develop a winning strategy for matches and pick lists.

At IRI we had multiple MAR teams scouting using our CloudScout system. We use tablets with a custom developed FireScout app to scout that feeds to a proxy phone and uploads to our CloudScout system. Coaches have the data in hand immediately after matches are completed and uploaded.

Right now IRI scouting is available to the public so you can see the kind of data we gathered.

http://scouting.techfire225.org

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by krtanjek

We take scouting pretty seriously, we believe scouting during any competition is important for developing strategy for qualification matches as well as providing data for picking or helping alliance partners when you are picked.

We take pride in the data that is gathered by our scouts and attribute a lot of our recent success to having the data to develop a winning strategy for matches and pick lists.

At IRI we had multiple MAR teams scouting using our CloudScout system. We use tablets with a custom developed FireScout app to scout that feeds to a proxy phone and uploads to our CloudScout system. Coaches have the data in hand immediately after matches are completed and uploaded.

Right now IRI scouting is available to the public so you can see the kind of data we gathered.

http://scouting.techfire225.org

Awesome data!

Funny to see the numbers for my team 1405. We didn't score any boulders the entire time at IRI, our only "real points" were in autonomous.

[Ben Martin]

Originally Posted by krtanjek

We take scouting pretty seriously, we believe scouting during any competition is important for developing strategy for qualification matches as well as providing data for picking or helping alliance partners when you are picked.

We take pride in the data that is gathered by our scouts and attribute a lot of our recent success to having the data to develop a winning strategy for matches and pick lists.

At IRI we had multiple MAR teams scouting using our CloudScout system. We use tablets with a custom developed FireScout app to scout that feeds to a proxy phone and uploads to our CloudScout system. Coaches have the data in hand immediately after matches are completed and uploaded.

Right now IRI scouting is available to the public so you can see the kind of data we gathered.

http://scouting.techfire225.org

On this subject, thanks to 20, 1257, 1640, 2590, 3314, and 5254 for helping to collect the data, and 1640 for taking the awesome photos!

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

Awesome data!

Funny to see the numbers for my team 1405. We didn't score any boulders the entire time at IRI, our only "real points" were in autonomous.

And not one pick for your team in the prediction thread either. Interesting.

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

And not one pick for your team in the prediction thread either. Interesting.

I noticed, and liked it that way.

[NoshBrooks]

Originally Posted by TDav540

We've still got Chezy Champs. Remember that 254, 1241, 1731 and 708 put up 289 in the Newton semis in the match they got red carded. Put a few of those west coast teams together and you never know.

I'm confident in saying that had to be the most crazy moment of this season for everyone on 3620. I feel like most people know when they're beat, and that was one of those times for us.

If you added in the penalty scores as two of our robots climbers failed, and we killed a battery in that match, resulting in many penalties, the score was over 300. I don't think those fouls should count towards the world high score, but you still have to commend the excellent engineering on 254's alliance. It was beautiful incredible watching that alliance play.

Now I want to see 2056, 148 and 254 play a match together. That would most certainly result in a 300+ point game.

[Josh Goodman]

Originally Posted by krtanjek

We take scouting pretty seriously, we believe scouting during any competition is important for developing strategy for qualification matches as well as providing data for picking or helping alliance partners when you are picked.

We take pride in the data that is gathered by our scouts and attribute a lot of our recent success to having the data to develop a winning strategy for matches and pick lists.

At IRI we had multiple MAR teams scouting using our CloudScout system. We use tablets with a custom developed FireScout app to scout that feeds to a proxy phone and uploads to our CloudScout system. Coaches have the data in hand immediately after matches are completed and uploaded.

Right now IRI scouting is available to the public so you can see the kind of data we gathered.

http://scouting.techfire225.org

Wow. What a fantastic, comprehensive system. Can you go into a little bit of detail on how many people were collecting data during a match and how you split up what different people are looking at?

Great work!

[Ben Martin]

Originally Posted by Josh Goodman

Wow. What a fantastic, comprehensive system. Can you go into a little bit of detail on how many people were collecting data during a match and how you split up what different people are looking at?

Great work!

Thanks! The system was developed by Andrew Lobos (that's also his CD name on here).

We had 7 teams involved, so we had a lot of labor available, but you can pull it off with 7 people + an admin for device management. For most of the match, scouts add dots to a map, and statistics are generated based on where the dots are placed and what type of dots they were.

We have 7 Samsung Galaxy tablets (for the 6 robot positions and one for human players) that collect data through a data collection app and connect via bluetooth to a phone, which pipes the data to a server. The server has a script that updates calculations every 5 minutes, and people can look at that compiled data on an Android app, an iOS app, or on our website. During the season, we require an authorization key, but we opened it up for IRI since we were scouting with other teams. It's nice, since as soon as a match is over, we can look up teams to see what they did.

The match schedule is automatically pulled from The Blue Alliance in most cases (otherwise it is added manually). For IRI, since we knew which defenses were going to be in each position for each match, that information was pre-coded in the system and scouts only had to add a blue dot on the defense to indicate whatever was in that position was crossed.

The entire system is modular, so it is very easy to add new charts, items scouted, or statistics displayed in the app and on the website.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by Ben Martin

Thanks! The system was developed by Andrew Lobos (that's also his CD name on here).

We had 7 teams involved, so we had a lot of labor available, but you can pull it off with 7 people + an admin for device management. For most of the match, scouts add dots to a map, and statistics are generated based on where the dots are placed and what type of dots they were.

We have 7 Samsung Galaxy tablets (for the 6 robot positions and one for human players) that collect data through a data collection app and connect via bluetooth to a phone, which pipes the data to a server. The server has a script that updates calculations every 5 minutes, and people can look at that compiled data on an Android app, an iOS app, or on our website. During the season, we require an authorization key, but we opened it up for IRI since we were scouting with other teams. It's nice, since as soon as a match is over, we can look up teams to see what they did.

The match schedule is automatically pulled from The Blue Alliance in most cases (otherwise it is added manually). For IRI, since we knew which defenses were going to be in each position for each match, that information was pre-coded in the system and scouts only had to add a blue dot on the defense to indicate whatever was in that position was crossed.

The entire system is modular, so it is very easy to add new charts, items scouted, or statistics displayed in the app and on the website.

It was byfar the best scouting system I have ever worked with. Hats off to 225 and Andrew Lobos.

[ASD20]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

It was byfar the best scouting system I have ever worked with. Hats off to 225 and Andrew Lobos.

Wow this is amazing.

[krtanjek]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

It was byfar the best scouting system I have ever worked with. Hats off to 225 and Andrew Lobos.

Thank you, we take scouting very seriously. Andrew and the team has created a great way for us to get data quickly and see what upcoming matches look like.

The more time scouts are watching a match instead of writing or typing allows for more accurate data.

One of the nice features of this system is if you are at a venue where Internet access is not available because mobile signals are flaky or no internet we are able to use our 2 10" tablets to be able to update via bluetooth from the lead scouts tablet with all the data and have it in hand.

It really is a great system and Andrew is awesome. :-)

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by krtanjek

Right now IRI scouting is available to the public so you can see the kind of data we gathered.

http://scouting.techfire225.org

This is awesome!

Now we will have to start scouting the scouting systems other teams are using, potentially moving teams that have better scouting data up on the pick list.* This system seems like it could reduce match scouting errors by making the job more visual.
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* Those teams are probably high on the list based on performance anyway.

[mipo0707]

Originally Posted by NoshBrooks

I'm confident in saying that had to be the most crazy moment of this season for everyone on 3620. I feel like most people know when they're beat, and that was one of those times for us.

If you added in the penalty scores as two of our robots climbers failed, and we killed a battery in that match, resulting in many penalties, the score was over 300. I don't think those fouls should count towards the world high score, but you still have to commend the excellent engineering on 254's alliance. It was beautiful incredible watching that alliance play.

Now I want to see 2056, 148 and 254 play a match together. That would most certainly result in a 300+ point game.

IF that EVER happened that will not fail to be the best but also most talked about if failed or succeeded in accomplishing a world high score!

[krtanjek]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

This is awesome!

Now we will have to start scouting the scouting systems other teams are using, potentially moving teams that have better scouting data up on the pick list.* This system seems like it could reduce match scouting errors by making the job more visual.
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* Those teams are probably high on the list based on performance anyway.

That was our intention when we created the system. The actual scouting app is very easy and visual instead of text based, there are notes that we can pull up when we want as well.

Really reduces the time our scouting meetings take now by at least a couple hours. This is the second year we have used it and hope to expand it for whatever next years game will be. Good data in is good data out.. :-)