Value & Credibility of 4th robots on an Alliance

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Originally Posted by indubitably

Directed at a member of the CD Community:


Bully Alert!!

Originally Posted by jtrv

If he made up a name and put in some random team number, you wouldn't have a clue it was a fake name because you would never check to see if that name is real. You'd just assume that person is real. At what point does this stop?

If I posted what you did, but in response to someone with a name, I could risk suspension here. But someone without a real name is ok to insult like that?

Matt has grown dismissive of the persistent political BS that infects this forum on a daily basis and inflames in the offseason when people with no life outside of robotics spend their days s***posting on the boards. The definition of bullying most people with a loose grasp of English is "use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants." A synonym we might be looking for is persecution, especially since people on this board are actually persecuted regularly and the only people that claim to be persecuted are people who by most accounts, are not being persecuted, just being told to go waste someone else's time with their particular brand of drivel (Summer CD specializes in only the highest quality of drivel, you know) It is pretty easy to perceive that members of 1086 might feel persecuted by some kid implying that the work they put in this season to be considered a backup is for naught because of where they got picked on the draft board.

Here are three things people in FIRST with no life love to do:
1) Create exclusive clubs for themselves and their "friends" in an effort to put themselves up on a pedestal
2) Use those networks as a tool to talk $@#$@#$@#$@# about other teams to make themselves feel better, driving wedges between people in an otherwise inclusive program.
3) Pretend to themselves they exercise some great and all encompassing power when in reality they are very small people that do not have the control of themselves they need and therefore choose to concoct a false influence over others to mask the inadequacy.
These are all flaws that are not unique to FIRST, but in lieu of parroting the idea of "Gracious Professionalism" I will just say "Don't be an unrepentant and self absorbed jerk" because it's the most direct the filter on here will let me be.

If it's not abundantly clear, let me explicitly state that I really couldn't give a toss about what people think of me personally, but people who talk $@#$@#$@#$@# about my team and likely will continue to infest our community with their incessant political BS can be easily told where they can stick their opinion. If you think Matt standing up for his team is bullying, I can tell you where you can stick that opinion as well.

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

perhaps I am missing something but when did he specifically insult you/your team? Even the post this thread started with was questionably mean. In fact id go out on a limb and say you were being obnoxious even correcting him saying 1/2 instead of 2/3. First has an element of luck built in. Even Frank Merrick says that. I think you would agree that teams like 118, 195, 2056, ect have better robots then you but, you are the one hanging up the world championships banner. I don't fault you for that and I have seen your robot doing well in person multiple times but others do. Threads like this very rarely stay completely respectful you and me both know that and sadly you usually can not expect them to do so.

Just some food for thought.

Sam, I'm going to go ahead and post something you will wish was a PM, but allow me to go out on a limb here and call your post obnoxious. Would you think it would be a jerk move if I just did a wholesale discount of the entire New York City/State regional system, which has only produced one world champion since 2000 (and that team is defunct)? Do you like the idea of people being openly and publicly dismissive of your team and their efforts? This is a simple yes or no question.

Of course there is an element of luck built in to FRC. The two years there was little good luck involved happened to be two of the most reviled years of the competition. That isn't relevant to people being blabbering idiots on the internet. It does require a certain level of competency to make it to championships on a merit bid. It just so happens that 1086 was in the top 5 of their district system this year, beating us in the same brackets two times out of three.

I guess it is too much to ask that people quit being blabbering and disrespectful idiots on the internet at all, even a place like CD which is supposed to operate as an extension of an already existing and intimate face to face kind of community. We should all just throw our hands up and expect BS. We should all feed the drama machine be it in public or in PMs. Why not give in to the idea that every part of FIRST has problems that cannot be fixed or can only be fixed with one's personal gracious flick of a finger?

Maybe people will claim that this was bullying or targeted. It's really not. I'm just 10000 miles over the politics and this cesspool of privilege and pathetic drama that is this website.