[FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Gregor

As someone who's weary of rejoining (last time I played was 2013?), is there an updated rules list? Trying to gauge time commitment.

There is, but it's not current to this year, YET. https://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2574 I'll publish an update once we figure out the waiver rules a little more.

The main thing is that district events are now drafted in blocks--so you pick an alliance for MI, one for MAR, one for Toronto, etc. Bigger districts will often use bigger alliances (MI tends to run to 6 teams per alliance), with drafts spread over two nights. I forget what all else we've adjusted since then.


Speaking of rules updates and changes and the like, I do believe I need to put those into more formal explanations. So, here goes.

1) Waivers, aside from any still-to-be determined changes in submission methodology, will have one change: Any team picked up after events begin will be a waiver claim. (The exception to this: any team assigned randomly by the scoring crew after an event to fill a hole.)
Reason: Had a bunch of folks simply wait out the waiver timing last year and then pick a bunch of teams.

2) Draft Order: The first draft will be randomized. After the first draft, each succeeding draft will rotate the order one slot (1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3, n becomes 1--or reverse order of that, haven't determined which) until everybody has drafted in the #1 overall slot once. After that, draft order will be randomized again and rotation will recommence.
--Special Case: Tiered drafts. We didn't see any last year, but there may be some this year. If there's a tiered draft, rotation will happen before tier split.
--Special Case: District Block Drafts. The first district block draft will be randomized, and the remainder will be rotated.
--Special Case: Not a full rotation remaining. For either the regionals or the districts, if there aren't enough events left (e) to do a full rotation of n players, the decision process is as follows: If e<(n/2), all drafts will be randomized. If e>=(n/2), rotation will be used.
Reason: Random can slide some folks down a little bit in the average draft order, so we're trying to level the playing field even more.

It should be noted that DCMPs will use finishing order in the districts they cover.

3) 2Champs is going to do some messing with the CMP drafts, I think. Let's take any discussion on that to https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...d.php?t=146725, though. (Same for any other waiver improvements to discuss, please.)

[JosephC]

Technical Difficulties are preventing me from posting tonights draft, more specifically, I can't get the teams list for CVR. https://puu.sh/sCekO/d2be13dfe9.png

(If someone could post it within the next 5 minutes thatd be great)

[TDav540]

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[JosephC]

Thanks

[EricH]

Short note: Anybody thinking the CD clock is still late, it's now caught up to the rest of the world.

[TDav540]

First trade of the New Year (for us east coasters, that is. Last trade of 2016 for you Central, Mountain, and West Coasters)!

Falcon Receives:
4590 @ Israel
2158 @ Colorado
3250 @ Sacramento

QD Receives:
2212 @ Israel
662 @ Colorado
1678 @ Sacramento

[TDav540]

So, one thing we noticed while looking at the MAR, Ontario, and Chesapeake team lists is that both Ontario (146 teams) and Chesapeake (129 teams) have more teams than MAR (120 teams). However, MAR is the only district of these three to have a six-round draft. That seems a little odd to me, especially since Chesapeake had a round 2 last year.

We understand that we're probably a little late to schedule a second round for Ontario and Chesapeake, especially considering we're less than a week from kickoff. That's just something odd we noticed that doesn't make sense. We think it wouldn't be a bad idea to run a second Chesapeake round and a second Ontario round starting around 8:30 pm on 1/6/17 (or earlier for Ontario), but we also understand if that's too short notice.

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by TDav540

So, one thing we noticed while looking at the MAR, Ontario, and Chesapeake team lists is that both Ontario (146 teams) and Chesapeake (129 teams) have more teams than MAR (120 teams). However, MAR is the only district of these three to have a six-round draft. That seems a little odd to me, especially since Chesapeake had a round 2 last year.

We understand that we're probably a little late to schedule a second round for Ontario and Chesapeake, especially considering we're less than a week from kickoff. That's just something odd we noticed that doesn't make sense. We think it wouldn't be a bad idea to run a second Chesapeake round and a second Ontario round starting around 8:30 pm on 1/6/17 (or earlier for Ontario), but we also understand if that's too short notice.

TBC would be fine with this.

[niklas674]

TRF also agrees with this.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by TDav540

So, one thing we noticed while looking at the MAR, Ontario, and Chesapeake team lists is that both Ontario (146 teams) and Chesapeake (129 teams) have more teams than MAR (120 teams). However, MAR is the only district of these three to have a six-round draft. That seems a little odd to me, especially since Chesapeake had a round 2 last year.

We understand that we're probably a little late to schedule a second round for Ontario and Chesapeake, especially considering we're less than a week from kickoff. That's just something odd we noticed that doesn't make sense. We think it wouldn't be a bad idea to run a second Chesapeake round and a second Ontario round starting around 8:30 pm on 1/6/17 (or earlier for Ontario), but we also understand if that's too short notice.

Swamp Life has some concerns. Despite having less teams MAR has a much deeper field than Chesapeake which was dominated by a select few teams last year.

I personally feel that Ontario as a new district, that under the regional system was dominated by a small amount of teams will be the same.

All that creating double drafts for them will accomplish is increasing the likely hood of someone picking a team who has a fluke good year and getting a point bonus. That isnt skill its luck.

Basically in my opinion Chesapeake showed a shallow field and until a new district shows otherwise it should be treated as such as well.

[EricH]

Something I think we've done once or twice is to run a 4th round for an extra team. That's something that could be worked in fairly quickly, if we thought it was worth it.

[TDav540]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

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Basically in my opinion Chesapeake showed a shallow field and until a new district shows otherwise it should be treated as such as well.

That's probably a bad attitude for if/when Minnesota arrives to districts, but to each his own.

Originally Posted by EricH

Something I think we've done once or twice is to run a 4th round for an extra team. That's something that could be worked in fairly quickly, if we thought it was worth it.

I'm fine with this. There are plenty of good teams left to draft at both, even if not everyone wants to do the full extra three. But we'd still prefer a full set.

[EricH]

Something has come up, and I'm going to have to push NE back a day (or so).

That being said, I don't have any problems at all with keeping NE up until the 6th, advancing as time and picks allow. So what I'm thinking is that the first round of NE will be "through" probably Thursday unless picks come in (they have been, TBC is on what clock I'm keeping for their 2nd pick), and the second round will take the second slot on Friday (if we get lucky, Chesapeake will be through most of its rounds too).


As far as extra roundage... Ontario is currently complete, so I don't think it's worth re-opening and running another draft round there. For Chesapeake, I think we can add 1 more runthrough with no issues--it'd be 9-1 order, 1-minute timing.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by TDav540

That's probably a bad attitude for if/when Minnesota arrives to districts, but to each his own.

So looking at the last 3 years of Minnesota Regionals, the number of slots for veterans they can produce (3 Winners, Chairman's, EI, our 3 largest point scorers) is 60. Of those 60, 17 went to out of state teams, bringing it down to 43. Those 43 slots were won by 24 teams. In a state that had 208 teams last year that is horrible.

[JosephC]

Generally speaking, districts have been dominated by fewer teams during their first one or two years, as the benefits gained by having a district system have yet to be fruitful for the majority of teams. Ya can't benefit from districts til you go through at least a year of em. There are exceptions of course, but they are far and in between. Anyways, it's probably a discussion for a different place