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Re: FIRST 50 years ago / 50 years from now.

In 2066 to accommodate the changes in gameplay and robots, the fields are now 27 by 54 by 81 meters. Teams will be complaining auto is too short and the 20 second teleop should be eliminated as most robots do nothing on the field due to the mandatory lack of any automation software during this period. The Great California Earthquake of 2045 devastated the California teams and the major nexus of elite teams are now located in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.

The Non-Newtonians’ (Team 49033) Gravity Lens has received massive complaints as being cheating and FIRST is considering banning any devices which affect the force of gravity. Prohibiting Morgan Gravitonics devices are also being considered. The rules are being adjusted to prohibit weighing any robots while the equipment is on. About half the teams struggle to accomplish the flying portion of the game and continue to use ground only robots.

Teams chafe at the 32 terabyte/s bandwidth limit as this reduced their holographic HUD robot POV interface. Teams are also clamoring for transitioning from magnesium air batteries to lighter weight higher output Minovsky reactors for powering the robots.

Additive manufacturing techniques have become common and some mentors complain we have lost the basics by not doing things the hard way by CNC. Material Advances in new alloys and composites have forced FIRST to reduce the weight limit to 80lb as otherwise the robots would be too large and too powerful. Teams complain about the limitation of motors that can only output 465 NM at 40k rpm.
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The Great California Earthquake of 2045 devastated the California teams and the major nexus of elite teams are now located in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.
Dang...That's quite the prediction.
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CA Districts in 2065, calling it now!
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The Great California Earthquake of 2045 devastated the California teams and the major nexus of elite teams are now located in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.
It took 20 years after the quake of 2045 to establish the infrastructure needed to hold FIRST district events in California.
On the plus side, the split between NoCal and SoCal districts became obvious.
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Re: FIRST 50 years ago / 50 years from now.

Maybe not a FIRST-specific thing but something to look forward to in the non-combat competitive robotics scene in general...

If marketing proceeds towards making things big, I'd see things becoming like other sports (FRC becoming almost a feeder of sorts? See: NASCAR, F1)... in more ways than one. (See: Battlebots. Less technical focus, more "ooh something different") Televised events, people not involved directly having heavy investment, larger corporate sponsorship. Formalized leagues with engineers being drafted (IMO, would be rly cool), etc.

Technologically involved mainstream sports are nothing new (NASCAR, F1).
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Maybe not a FIRST-specific thing but something to look forward to in the non-combat competitive robotics scene in general...

If marketing proceeds towards making things big, I'd see things becoming like other sports (FRC becoming almost a feeder of sorts? See: NASCAR, F1)... in more ways than one. (See: Battlebots. Less technical focus, more "ooh something different") Televised events, people not involved directly having heavy investment, larger corporate sponsorship. Formalized leagues with engineers being drafted (IMO, would be rly cool), etc.

Technologically involved mainstream sports are nothing new (NASCAR, F1).
I'd definitely be interested in a NASCAR autonomous division. Maybe allow code changes during pit stops to change strategies or driving styles.
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I'd definitely be interested in a NASCAR autonomous division. Maybe allow code changes during pit stops to change strategies or driving styles.
NASCAR Pit Stop in that division in 2066:
Battery Fill *check*
New Tires *check*
Damage Repaired *check*
New Code deployed *check*
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Re: FIRST 50 years ago / 50 years from now.

2056 will finally when a long deserved championship

Karthik will still be coaching 1114 at the age of 75 (not sure his actual age. Just guessed 25...)

148 found another game to make 2 robots that count as one.

Team 71 won their 5th championship

Indiana Districts will have an event at Purdue again.

A game that involves magnets in some way

Team 47 will be resurrected

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Re: FIRST 50 years ago / 50 years from now.

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2056 will finally when a long deserved championship

Karthik will still be coaching 1114 at the age of 75 (not sure his actual age. Just guessed 25...)

148 found another game to make 2 robots that count as one.

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Indiana Districts will have an event at Purdue again.

A game that involves magnets in some way

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Woodie Flowers will still be alive at the age of 122

Dean Kamen will provide Segways to ever student (and hoverboards will still be banned.)
Technically, there are magnets in every game, built into the robots. Motors use magnets and copper coils, but I know what you mean. Magnet game pieces would be awesome! Magnet game 2017 anyone?

Not to derail this thread, but hoverboards are a perfect example of why LiFePO4 batteries aren't used in FIRST(yet). They are made with undersized batteries and incorrect charging circuits, so the high current draw overheats them(I think) and/or non-balance charging overcharges the cells. There are new smaller Segways which are probably safe.
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In 2005, game pieces were suspended via magnets to start the match.

In 2011, lots of minibots used magnets to cling to the poles.

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In 2050 Aerial Assist is replayed with 2 tethered drones in the airspace at the center of the space station "Epcot" back in the rotating park module in orbit around Earth. Most of the guests will be remote from their homes. FMS will use standard quatum entanglement burst transmissions such that latency is virtually irrelevant (determinism is a novel concept found irrelevant to quatum physics by 2031 and sooner or later we have superluminal communication without voiding relativity).

Literally my moonshot .

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FMS will use standard quatum entanglement burst transmissions such that latency is virtually irrelevant.
That's definitely a 2065 technology right there.
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That's definitely a 2065 technology right there.
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