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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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Anyone else notice the random 2 or 3 seconds from Einstein? Came out of nowhere.

hehe.

If you going to talk about defense and all, you should show a clip of the best d bot out there.


haha. ok maybe a little bias.
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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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Id hardly call this quote good "You see in the show how there were teams who won a bunch of years and had a team of engineers with them. Unfortunately that's true. The highschools they go to are the ones with super high test scores and a good handful of cash to spare. And usually those kids parents have like Harvard engineering degrees and they mainly build the robots for the kids."

If anything it makes the whole thing worse.
In a response to that comment, another redditor said:

"Wow, the event sounds like a ton of fun, and the whole process as well. Computer science is something I hope to pursue in the future so seeing all these cool programs for the robots and what you described is just awesome. I wish my school had a robotics team."
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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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"Wow, the event sounds like a ton of fun, and the whole process as well. Computer science is something I hope to pursue in the future so seeing all these cool programs for the robots and what you described is just awesome. I wish my school had a robotics team."
Great so that single person was OK with it. What about the perspective mentor who read that and went huh this program looks terrible.
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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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Great so that single person was OK with it. What about the perspective mentor who read that and went huh this program looks terrible.
oh, and the sky is falling as well. watch out!
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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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Anyone else notice the random 2 or 3 seconds from Einstein? Came out of nowhere.

But that's not possible. The SoCal regional is what the the Los Angeles regional was called until 2007 when the San Diego Regional came along. If 330 wasn't at the SoCal regional, or an equivalent in this universe (which they have attended every year it existed), how did they get to Einstein?

One does not simply fail to attend their home regional!

Did 330 win the World Championship in 2015 or the WCA to qualify for champs in this universe?

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It's almost like FRC isn't a spectator sport and they had to add controversy and drama to make it at least somewhat interesting to the average viewer who probably doesn't give a crap about GP, coopertition, or even robots for that matter.

Now I'm not saying they made the best choices of how to add drama but even with what they added, it seems people thought it was a snore.
The show's writers could have had teams sabotaging opponents' robots, bribing the inspector, and punching the referee (and opponents mentors). From what I've seen in a few episodes, that would be totally within the behavior norms for characters in this show.

FIRST could well have been portrayed in a disgustingly horrible light (at least for us).

Except the FIRST advisor to The Fosters would simply not allow that to happen!
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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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But that's not possible. The SoCal regional is what the the Los Angeles regional was called until 2007 when the San Diego Regional along. If 330 wasn't at the SoCal regional, or an equivalent in this universe (which they have attended every year it existed), how did they get to Einstein?

One does not simply fail to attend their home regional.

Did 330 win the World Championship in 2015 or the WCA in this universe?
This is the universe where California went to districts, allowing for a generic Southern California regional and causing the event to be 2 days. Since the team registered for regionals late, they could only get into one event. 330 won CSC with 254 and the antagonist team from the show.

Edit: This also caused 330's climber to fail earlier during CSC semifinals, allowing them to fix and improve it during CMP on day 1 and Carver ends up 2-0 against Tesla.

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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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"Wow, the event sounds like a ton of fun, and the whole process as well. Computer science is something I hope to pursue in the future so seeing all these cool programs for the robots and what you described is just awesome. I wish my school had a robotics team."
In all fairness that person had also competed in FLL in the past and was aware of FIRST already.
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Great so that single person was OK with it. What about the perspective mentor who read that and went huh this program looks terrible.
Great so that single mentor wasn't okay with it. What about the student who read that and thought "wow, that was cool, I wish my school had a team"?

It turns out you can't use single anecdotal examples to prove either side of an argument wrong!
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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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It turns out you can't use single anecdotal examples to prove either side of an argument wrong!
Nobody is trying to prove anything. But when every single response is negative (except for one student who had participated in FLL) that says something about how the The Fosters viewers perceived FIRST, right?
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Nobody is trying to prove anything. But when every single response is negative (except for one student who had participated in FLL) that says something about how the The Fosters viewers perceived FIRST, right?
No, that says something about Internet trolls being trollish.
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No, that says something about Internet trolls being trollish.
How are comments like "I did not really care about the whole robotics thing," "I don't love the robotics thing either," and " I hope I never see another robot competition on this show or anywhere else!" trolling? I get that they have an opinion that would be very unpopular on CD, but I just don't understand how posting their honest opinions of the show's content on a forum about the show makes them trolls.
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Re: FIRST on "The Fosters" - Monday Nights on FreeForm 8e/5p Starting Tonight!

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How are comments like "I did not really care about the whole robotics thing," "I don't love the robotics thing either," and " I hope I never see another robot competition on this show or anywhere else!" trolling? I get that they have an opinion that would be very unpopular on CD, but I just don't understand how posting their honest opinions of the show's content on a forum about the show makes them trolls.
I'd wager 99% of the audience doesn't post on the internet about the fosters. I wouldn't confuse a vocal minority with a proper representative sample (same as chief Delphi).

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Nobody is trying to prove anything. But when every single response is negative (except for one student who had participated in FLL) that says something about how the The Fosters viewers perceived FIRST, right?
For the passionate FIRST community, we want to get our message out about how cool this program is. The Fosters did a decent job. You can tell they did research and were able to grasp some of the themes of competition stress, inspection process, the importance of consistent execution, powerhouse vs. low resource teams, all girl teams, adult vs. student coaches, elimination selection politics, referees, autonomous modes, safety glasses (sort of), and the importance continuous improvement throughout the event. Most of these real tidbits are only known to current participants. (What--- no line dances? Can't be FRC!)

As we know, FIRST and FRC are a bit difficult to grasp in an few minutes of exposure. The good news - FIRST got their logo on a TV program. Exposure is publicity. The Fosters team could have used a fictional robotics competition or science fair to make the same plot points. Also, the viewers still may not connect the dots that FIRST is real.

Now for the flip side view. Before these announcements, I had vaguely heard of Freeform and never a peep about The Fosters. Freeform and similar services are potentially the future of on demand media. I'll never watch The Fosters again. (I'm obviously not the target audience.) Hopefully the show's producers won't lament over this internet comment.

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I think you are all taking the potential influence of a TV show most people have never heard of way too seriously. To echo what Adam said, you are the vocal minority here.
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