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Re: [FRC Blog]2017 Updates

Seem like great changes to me, very happy with 6 subdivisions at each championship and a round robin Einstein.

Anyone want to do the math on how the extra wildcard will effect the North-Champs, they should be getting even fewer wait list slots now.
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Re: [FRC Blog]2017 Updates

I like the extra wildcards and 6 divisions/champs.
I'd love a little more wildcard reform (wildcards given out via district points structure), and districts/regional reform (let regional teams attend districts the same way district teams from other areas do), but we take every little victory.
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Re: [FRC Blog]2017 Updates

I'll reserve judgement on the round-robin tournament structure for Einstein until I see it. There's potential for it to be boring, if two alliances clearly dominate after the first couple of matches... but there's also potential for it to be very exciting if the alliances are mostly evenly matched, or there's a question of alliances changing strategy depending on who they're facing. One thing's for sure - scouting other divisions is going to be somewhat important. Previously, you could scout the finals for the division you knew your division would be up against in the first round on Einstein, and then use the other Einstein matches to scout future opponents. Now, it's everyone!

Going to 6 divisions is probably good overall. If they did 4, there would be 100 teams per division, which would lead to fewer matches played and more complaints from everyone (who remembers the complaints the last time that happened?), and going to 8 would mean only 50 teams per division, which I don't think is deep enough for Champs.

For the wildcard spot... if a regional generates 4 wildcards, why not have a "3rd place" match? Make it a single match, winner take all. I've seen "3rd place" matches happen a lot at off-season events...
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Re: [FRC Blog]2017 Updates

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Seem like great changes to me, very happy with 6 subdivisions at each championship and a round robin Einstein.

Anyone want to do the math on how the extra wildcard will effect the North-Champs, they should be getting even fewer wait list slots now.
I probably screwed something up

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20ish Regionals x 7 is 140 Regional slots

Using last season's numbers
Ontario - 137 teams
Michigan - 411
Indiana - 54
New England - 182
Mid Atlantic - 122
Chesapeake - 132

1038 total, or about 33% of all teams. Of the 800 total CMP spots they'll get about 265.

That brings us to 405.

So Halfchamps North has around -5 spots to split between original teams and the wait list. Hmmm.
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Re: [FRC Blog]2017 Updates

I too am not a fan of the 6 sub-divisions and the round robin format coming back to FRC.

I'm happy about the extra wildcard. Hopefully it should help a bit for under-represented regions at champs.
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