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Re: Best in your State/Region

These are the lists for Minnesota
This year by OPR
5172
2052
3130
5434
4009

Based on this year's results at various levels
2220
2502
2052
5172
3130

This year overall
2052
5172
2502
3130
2220

Past 5 years by OPR
2052
3130
5172
2175
2502

Past 5 years by results at various levels
1816
2052
3130
2512
2175

Past 5 years overall
2052
3130
2175
2502
2512

In terms of culture
2169
5172
2175
2502
1816

It's pretty interesting how the lists have a lot of the same teams on them.
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2-5-4! 2-5-4! 2-5-4! 2-5-4!

Seriously though, for all my fanboying 1678 is starting to give them a run for their money in recent years. They have been on Einstein more often in the last 4 years, anyway. 971 has good years and bad years, but generally remain slightly behind 1678.
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Re: Best in your State/Region

I would say 3419. Their robot for the past two years has been solid.

Plus, they pioneered the camera pole. Who could complain?

Also, 1796 always makes an incredible showing. Their robot this year was killer.

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2-5-4! 2-5-4! 2-5-4! 2-5-4!

Seriously though, for all my fanboying 1678 is starting to give them a run for their money in recent years. They have been on Einstein more often in the last 4 years, anyway. 971 has good years and bad years, but generally remain slightly behind 1678.
973, 3476, and 330 are all definitely in the mix too for CA.
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I'd post some for our little happy tribe of Kansas teams, but thankfully, someone on 1108 went ahead and did it for me. I can now officially say that I'm #4 in the state (by RP), which is a great marketing stat.

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Re: Best in your State/Region

In Northern California: 1678, 254, and 971. All are absolutely fantastic teams with 4 Championships, multiple division wins and dozens of regional victories between them. They are all incredibly helpful and nice, and do whatever they can to help other teams.

For culture and other awards in NorCal 1868 is pretty hard to beat, having won Chairman's 5 times in their existence and many other awards.

Also, if anyone is interested I wrote a post about 1678's rise from an OK team to absolute domination. Here's the link: https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...89&postcount=9
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973, 3476, and 330 are all definitely in the mix too for CA.
Very true. I have a very North-specific worldview, being from lower norcal myself.
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Re: Best in your State/Region

Here's some OPR stats for California. It's crazy just how dominant 254 has been (and makes me wonder: is this normal in other regions too?)


2016, max OPR:
254 - 78.9 at SVR
971 - 77.1 at Sac
1678 - 70.5 on Hopper
3309 - 62.9 at Orange County
330 - 60.0 at Ventura

2016, avg OPR:
971 - 72.0
254 - 69.4
1678 - 61.7
330 - 57.3
973 - 52.2

Avg rank by max OPR, past 5 years:
254 - 1.4 (2, 2, 1, 1, 1)
1717 - 5.3 (1, 3, 8, 9, )
971 - 5.4 (7, 10, 6, 2, 2)
1678 - 6.8 (9, 16, 3, 3, 3)
973 - 7.6 (3, 5, 13, 11, 6)

Avg rank by avg OPR, past 5 years:
254 - 1.6 (2, 2, 1, 1, 2)
971 - 5 (7, 8, 5, 4, 1)
1678 - 5 (6, 11, 3, 2, 3)
1717 - 6.25 (1, 3, 7, 14, )
1538 - 7 (12, 1, 9, 6, 7)

Misc notes:
- Of those 6 teams, 4 are previous world champions. 1538 and 1717 have made division finals at least once each. 254 and 1538 are also HOF teams
- Of the past 5 years, only this year (2016) had a different teams holding the top max OPR and top average OPR record
- Of the past 5 years, the top 3 teams for both max and avg OPR appear in the top 10 teams across all 5 years with one exception: 2485 ranked 2nd in both categories in 2014 but ranked 12th in max / 21st in avg
- I used the OPR data from 2834's database, which includes OPRs from divisions but not Einstein
- I excluded 2 2016 rookie teams from the top 10 avg OPR rankings (5924 at 9th, and 5818 at 11th) since I figured there wouldn't be much of a trend to see, pushing 3309 (at 12th) in
- There are a lot of teams with black as their team color, so my color coordination for the plots got a bit messed up (sorry 1671 and 3309)

Plots of the top 10 teams by average max/avg OPR rank over the past 5 years:



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For culture and other awards in NorCal 1868 is pretty hard to beat, having won Chairman's 5 times in their existence and many other awards.
We're honored by the mention, but 604 definitely takes the top spot for Chairman's (excluding HOF teams). I don't have award data easily accessible but I'd guess 1671, 1323, and 3256 would be strong norcal contenders, as would 2485 and 3476 for socal.
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Where can one find OPR data?
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Where can one find OPR data?
I'll echo his question, since I'm curious as well. Are you getting this through BlueAlliance, and if so, how can I get ahold of that data as well?
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Best in NY in 2016:

By Average OPR:
  1. 5254 [48.6]
  2. 4006 [47.1]
  3. 870 [45.1]
  4. 3419 [40.7]
  5. 329 [40.5]
By Championship Results:
  1. 3015 [Championship Finalist as second selection]
  2. 1405 [Championship Finalist as backup bot]
  3. 694 [Einstein Quarterfinals as captain]
  4. 1511 [Einstein Quarterfinals as backup bot]
  5. [TIE] 5254/329 [Division Finals as backup bot]
By Championship Selection Order:
  1. 639 [Sixth Alliance Captain]
  2. 3419 [Sixth Overall Selection]
  3. 333 [Seventh Alliance Captain]
  4. 694 [Eighth Alliance Captain]
  5. 229 [Eighth Overall Selection]
By Championship Seed:
  1. 639 [6]
  2. 694 [8]
  3. 333 [10]
  4. 229 [13]
  5. 329 [14]
By Regional Results:
  1. 20 [#6 Seed and Winner, #7 Seed and Finalist]
  2. 1126 [#1 Seed and Winner, #14 Seed and Semifinalist]
  3. 5254 [#2 Seed and Finalist, #1 Seed and Semifinalist]
  4. 694 [#8 Seed and Winner, #36 Seed and Quarterfinalist]
  5. 3419 [#3 Seed and Finalist, #5 Seed and Semifinalist]

In my opinion, Overall:
  1. 5254
  2. 694
  3. 3419
  4. 20
  5. 2791

Best in NY the past 5 years:

By OPR:
  1. 1507 [Average NY OPR Rank 9.6]
  2. 329 [Average NY OPR Rank 10]
  3. 5254* [Average NY OPR Rank 10.7]
  4. 3015 [Average NY OPR Rank 12.8]
  5. 340 [Average NY OPR Rank 17.4]
*5254 has only been around for 3 of the 5 years in question.

By Championship Results:
  1. 3015 [Einstein Finalist 2016 and Division Finalist 2015]
  2. 20 [Einstein Quarterfinals 2015, Division Quarters 2013, 2014, 2016]
  3. 639 [Division Finals 2012, Division Semifinals 2016]
  4. 694 [Einstein Quarters 2016]
  5. [TIE] 3419 [Division Semifinals 2016, Division Quarterfinals 2015] / 340 [Division Semifinals 2015, Division Quarterfinals 2014]
By Regional Results:
  1. 20 [5 Regional Wins, 3 Finalists]
  2. 340 [3 Regional Wins, 2 Finalists]
  3. 3015 [2 Regional Wins, 4 Finalists]
  4. 1507 [3 Regional Wins, 1 Finalist]
  5. 1126 [2 Regional Wins, 1 Finalist]
Overall:
  1. 3015
  2. 20
  3. 1507
  4. 694
  5. 340

Culture:
  1. 1511
  2. 340
  3. 694
  4. 329
  5. 229
As much as possible of this is objective, but some is obviously subjective, and judgement calls are necessary with any sort of list like this.
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Re: Best in your State/Region

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Best in NY in 2016:

By Average OPR:
  1. 5254
  2. 4006
  3. 870
  4. 3419
  5. 329
By Championship Results:
  1. 3015
  2. 1405
  3. 694
  4. 1511
  5. 5254/329 [TIE]
By Championship Selection Order:
  1. 639
  2. 3419
  3. 333
  4. 694
  5. 1796
By Championship Seed:
  1. 639
  2. 694
  3. 333
  4. 229
  5. 329
By Regional Results:
  1. 20
  2. 5254
  3. 694
  4. 1126
  5. 3419

In my opinion, Overall:
  1. 5254
  2. 694
  3. 3419
  4. 20
  5. 2791

Best in NY the past 5 years:

By OPR:
  1. 1507
  2. 329
  3. 5254*
  4. 3015
  5. 340
By Championship Results:
  1. 3015
  2. 20
  3. 639
  4. 694
  5. 3419
Overall:
  1. 3015
  2. 20
  3. 1507
  4. 694
  5. 340

As much as possible of this is objective, but some is obviously subjective, and judgement calls are necessary with any sort of list like this.
This is a really good list I think, good enough that I don't think it's necessary to post my own since it matches up 90%+. Your team's been doing an amazing job the past few seasons, and your work has honestly blown me away -- keep up the good work!
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Best in NY in 2016:

By Average OPR:
  1. 5254 [48.6]
  2. 4006 [47.1]
  3. 870 [45.1]
  4. 3419 [40.7]
  5. 329 [40.5]
By Championship Results:
  1. 3015 [Championship Finalist as second selection]
  2. 1405 [Championship Finalist as backup bot]
  3. 694 [Einstein Quarterfinals as captain]
  4. 1511 [Einstein Quarterfinals as backup bot]
  5. [TIE] 5254/329 [Division Finals as backup bot]
By Championship Selection Order:
  1. 639 [Sixth Alliance Captain]
  2. 3419 [Sixth Overall Selection]
  3. 333 [Seventh Alliance Captain]
  4. 694 [Eighth Alliance Captain]
  5. 1796 [Twelfth Overall Selection]
By Championship Seed:
  1. 639 [6]
  2. 694 [8]
  3. 333 [10]
  4. 229 [13]
  5. 329 [14]
By Regional Results:
  1. 20 [1 Winner, 1 Finalist]
  2. 5254 [1 Winner, 1 #1 Seed and Semifinalist]
  3. 694 [1 Winner, 1 Quarterfinalist]
  4. 1126 [1 Winner, 1 Quarterfinalist]
  5. 3419 [1 Finalist, 1 #5 Seed and Semifinalist]

In my opinion, Overall:
  1. 5254
  2. 694
  3. 3419
  4. 20
  5. 2791

Best in NY the past 5 years:

By OPR:
  1. 1507
  2. 329
  3. 5254*
  4. 3015
  5. 340
By Championship Results:
  1. 3015 [Einstein Finalist 2016 and Division Finalist 2015]
  2. 20 [Einstein Quarterfinals 2015, Division Quarters 2013, 2014, 2016]
  3. 639 [Division Finals 2012, Division Semifinals 2016]
  4. 694 [Einstein Quarters 2016]
  5. [TIE] 3419 [Division Semifinals 2016, Division Quarterfinals 2015] / 340 [Division Semifinals 2015, Division Quarterfinals 2014]
Overall:
  1. 3015
  2. 20
  3. 1507
  4. 694
  5. 340

As much as possible of this is objective, but some is obviously subjective, and judgement calls are necessary with any sort of list like this.
Nitpicking but 229 should be 5th on the championship picks list since we were 8th overall pick on Newton.

Not saying we should've been, but we were.
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Hello again, all! I've missed you. Let's take a little detour.

I was wondering this same question to myself right after the championships: "What mountain teams were the best this year, and in years past?" However, I got carried away and I took my question further, instead asking "What team would be the best if the entire Rocky Mountain Region was in the district format during 2016?" So, I calculated by hand the number of district points each team would have received if the district system were present in the region this year. (I'm a mountain man. I don't know how to make software do things for me.) I have organized the list by the tiebreaker rules, and have come up with a very interesting result. You can find that document here.

A few important things about the document:
  • All the teams with a green background would have qualified for Championships, as they are the top 20%. This, of course, does not factor in the recipients of the Rookie All Star, Engineering Inspiration, or Chairman's Award at a theoretical district championship, nor does it estimate what teams would have qualified for a district championship. This list also does not factor in the estimated number of points from a district championship, as one did not happen.
  • I have finally decided on a geographic area to monitor, and it does/will not include the PNW region or British Columbia. That is why they are not present.
  • I am not perfect. This list may be incorrect in some of the ordering.
I hope you all enjoy this interesting thought experiment. I'll be back soon with the answers to the main questions and more data! Stay tuned.
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Hello again, all! I've missed you. Let's take a little detour.

I was wondering this same question to myself right after the championships: "What mountain teams were the best this year, and in years past?" However, I got carried away and I took my question further, instead asking "What team would be the best if the entire Rocky Mountain Region was in the district format during 2016?" So, I calculated by hand the number of district points each team would have received if the district system were present in the region this year. (I'm a mountain man. I don't know how to make software do things for me.) I have organized the list by the tiebreaker rules, and have come up with a very interesting result. You can find that document here.

A few important things about the document:
  • All the teams with a green background would have qualified for Championships, as they are the top 20%. This, of course, does not factor in the recipients of the Rookie All Star, Engineering Inspiration, or Chairman's Award at a theoretical district championship, nor does it estimate what teams would have qualified for a district championship. This list also does not factor in the estimated number of points from a district championship, as one did not happen.
  • I have finally decided on a geographic area to monitor, and it does/will not include the PNW region or British Columbia. That is why they are not present.
  • I am not perfect. This list may be incorrect in some of the ordering.
I hope you all enjoy this interesting thought experiment. I'll be back soon with the answers to the main questions and more data! Stay tuned.
I think the list would be more accurate if you took the average of the events each team did or double the total points if a team only attended one event. As it stands now, a team that only attended one event is below where they should be.
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