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Unread 24-08-2016, 09:22
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Re: Best in your State/Region

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No need to hype 5254. Their performance speaks for itself.

If hype you must, ask, "Which NY team would have earned the most points at IRI, if IRI were a district competition?"
Kevin knows I have a deep love for 5254; they're like 2791's best friend! Lots of information sharing between the two teams this year. I just think, let the performances speak for themselves, you know? Kevin, everyone who has their finger on the pulse of competitive FRC (the kind of people who read summer CD) knows that 5254 is the real deal. We get it, you iterate, etc.

Back on topic, I've been meaning to compile stats for CT, but I don't know what kind of convenient OPR calculator everyone is using these days. Could anyone supply some links to resources I could use to gather this information? Or is it all in the cloud / online somewhere now?
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Unread 24-08-2016, 10:03
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Re: Best in your State/Region

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Kevin knows I have a deep love for 5254; they're like 2791's best friend! Lots of information sharing between the two teams this year. I just think, let the performances speak for themselves, you know? Kevin, everyone who has their finger on the pulse of competitive FRC (the kind of people who read summer CD) knows that 5254 is the real deal. We get it, you iterate, etc.

Back on topic, I've been meaning to compile stats for CT, but I don't know what kind of convenient OPR calculator everyone is using these days. Could anyone supply some links to resources I could use to gather this information? Or is it all in the cloud / online somewhere now?
Top teams that consistently choke in eliminations in Western NY:
  1. 5254
Top teams that have seeded first at Finger Lakes twice and failed to take home the banner:
  1. 5254
Sure there are a lot of lists I could make where 5254 comes in first.
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Unread 24-08-2016, 11:38
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Re: Best in your State/Region

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Top teams that consistently choke in eliminations in Western NY:
  1. 5254
Top teams that have seeded first at Finger Lakes twice and failed to take home the banner:
  1. 5254
Sure there are a lot of lists I could make where 5254 comes in first.
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Teams that worked for a grand total of 1 match before elims, but still got picked in the top 4, and then broke down again during elims:
1) 2502
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Teams that worked for a grand total of 1 match before elims, but still got picked in the top 4, and then broke down again during elims:
1) 2502
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Unread 25-08-2016, 14:10
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Re: Best in your State/Region

Here's more data! (since you can never have too much data)

Instead of just looking at OPR rank, I graphed it according to standard deviations above above the mean. 254 once again dominates, with several records: the only team with an average above 4, 1 of 4 teams to break 4 in a single year, 1 of 2 teams to break 4 in both categories (max/avg OPR), and the only team to break 5 (and even 6 in avg OPR).

Each category includes the 10 teams with the highest average (not highest rank as previously used). For the average, I used only CA teams, and the relevant stats (i.e. for max OPR, the average was the average of all max OPRs)

I think this is somewhat more representative than just rank (since it adjusts for how far above average you are), but it does make the graphs messier:



The top team per year in CA (standard deviations above average, max OPR, (CA data set only) (all teams)):
2012: 1717 (4.51) (4.77)
2013: 1538 (3.97) (4.71)
2014: 254 (4.01) (3.52)
2015: 254 (5.86) (6.57)
2016: 971 (4.06) (4.15)

Top teams in the world (data set now includes all teams):
2012: 2056 (5.20)
2013: 987 (4.93)
2014: 1114 (4.21)
2015: 254 (6.57)
2016: 148 (4.35)

Teams for 2008 to 2011 are 1114, 71, 67, and 111, which gives Ontario a third of the top spots in the past 9 years.
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I'll echo his question, since I'm curious as well. Are you getting this through BlueAlliance, and if so, how can I get ahold of that data as well?
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I'll echo his question, since I'm curious as well. Are you getting this through BlueAlliance, and if so, how can I get ahold of that data as well?
Sorry for the double post. To address questions about getting OPR data, these are the two sources that I know of (besides calculating it yourself).

I personally prefer 2834's database since it's in excel and already nicely formatted:
2016: https://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/3242?
2008-2015: https://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2174

TBA also has OPRs calculated per event, accessible via their API:
http://www.thebluealliance.com/apidocs
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Unread 25-08-2016, 14:40
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Re: Best in your State/Region

In my state, CT, the best team is undoubtedly team #195, consistent every year, never is lacking, etc.

Within New England, however, the best team is between 195 and 1519. 1519 is always good, just like 195 and honestly it depends on the year which one of these 2 comes out on top within our region.
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In my state, CT, the best team is undoubtedly team #195, consistent every year, never is lacking, etc.

Within New England, however, the best team is between 195 and 1519. 1519 is always good, just like 195 and honestly it depends on the year which one of these 2 comes out on top within our region.
To CT, I'd add 230 for Culture awards. Overall NE, don't forget about 125.
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Re: Best in your State/Region

Seeing as this thread is filled with great data attempting to distill great teams, I'll add my own completely subjective rankings for the North Carolina teams! In no particular order, I hold these 5 teams as some of the mostly consistently strong in the NC District:

1533 - Triple Strange
900 - The Zebracorns
3506 - Yeti
2655 - The Flying Platypi
2059 - The Hitchhikers

If I didn't have to limit the list to 5, I might also throw in*:
2642 - Pitt Pirates
4935 - T-Rex
587 - Hedgehogs

* (highly technical note): this list omits some talented up and comers who just haven't been around long enough.
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Who'll take a whack at Michigan?
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Strictly looking at OPR for 2016, these would be the top 5 teams in Georgia:

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Quick and Dirty top 20 in Michigan.
I have a sheet I use that looks at top finishing teams in the state, and I use this data as a power ranking for the district competitions.

So based on 5 years as requested... so if you didn't exist for 5 years, you are ineligible... 190 teams in 2012 are eligible 411 teams in 2016, means over half the teams that exist in the state, are not eligible in this calc...

Really makes you want to spend time and crank out metrics to justify rankings, but hey here you go.

Based on final FiM ranking data and the last 5 years, here is the top 20 teams in the state... or 1/2 of the state that currently have teams?
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Quick and Dirty top 20 in Michigan.
I have a sheet I use that looks at top finishing teams in the state, and I use this data as a power ranking for the district competitions.

So based on 5 years as requested... so if you didn't exist for 5 years, you are ineligible... 190 teams in 2012 are eligible 411 teams in 2016, means over half the teams that exist in the state, are not eligible in this calc...

Really makes you want to spend time and crank out metrics to justify rankings, but hey here you go.

Based on final FiM ranking data and the last 5 years, here is the top 20 teams in the state... or 1/2 of the state that currently have teams?
What does a "0" mean in ranking?
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