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Re: Video Review Needs to Happen Now

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The argument saying time would be wasted is a bad one because it can be done so quickly that very little time is wasted.
Given all the opinions (so far) about what Video Review should or shouldn't be, the word "it" in this sentence is very poorly defined.

For that reason, still color me undecided.

YMMV.

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Re: Video Review Needs to Happen Now

I like the concept of video reviews being used to make sure the correct call is made, using technology to make the competition better seems like a very FIRSTish thing to do. We have loads of regionals, maybe FIRST could do a trial run at a few and see how it turns out?

One potential downside is that there might be more people in the front rows waving their iPads in the air. If that's a sacrifice we'd have to make, then I don't wanna do it.
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One potential downside is that there might be more people in the front rows waving their iPads in the air. If that's a sacrifice we'd have to make, then I don't wanna do it.
If there's video review at an event, it's gonna be from official cameras or camera stations. I don't see any other way to make it fair to the teams whose entire team + supporters are on drive vs the teams with 5 students and a mentor on video.

Honestly, if I was to do a replay--and this is what I'd be pitching to offseason events--I'd figure out where the most non-judgement calls* were going to be. For 2016, that's the Defenses (and possibly the Secret Passage). It'll vary by year. That's where any cameras get pointed, probably one per area. If whatever is being contested is in view, then it's review time. If not, you're right out of luck, better luck next time.

One other element that I'd be considering would be a case of "what if something else got missed?" My opinion would be that whatever gets caught on video but missed by the refs should be taken into account when determining if the outcome of the match was affected--and unless the outcome is ruled to be affected, the only thing that is reviewed is the original request.


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Re: Video Review Needs to Happen Now

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Given all the opinions (so far) about what Video Review should or shouldn't be, the word "it" in this sentence is very poorly defined.
My definition of 'it' is what I already posted in this thread on what we will be using at GRC in October. Link in case you need to go read it again -

https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...2&postcount=49
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