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Re: Why use a manifold?
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Re: Why use a manifold?
The other reason to use a manifold is the exhaust air exiting through the manifold makes a cool sound.
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Also note that if you are going for a fast stroke, your cylinder should be large enough to move the load (slowly) at a rather low pressure, somewhere around 35psi/(desired acceleration + gravity), with acceleration measured in gees. There will be around 20 psi drop going through the solenoid valve, and pressure reduction as the cylinder extends (or retracts); the remainder is F=ma. (I am assuming here that your fast stroke is for the purpose of working against gravity to throw a ball or other object.) |
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Truth. Coolness of sound is, by far, the most accurate figure of merit for any FIRST robot.
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Re: Why use a manifold?
A little of topic but. Bimba, a great supporter of First and is also is sort of the standard of the cylinders that we use has published a handbook on pneumatic design. Sizing of cylinders included.
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Re: Why use a manifold?
Just to confirm GeeTwo and IndySam,
Attached is a photo of our 2014 Robot, where we used two pneumatic cylinders to shoot the ball. This shot is a little blury due to the camera DOF at the solenoids, but if you look closely and follow the tubing, you will see that the output of the solenoid, there is about a 1" of tube ported directly to the cylinder. The opposite end of the cylinder was left open to atmosphere. On the input end of the solenoid, you will see about a 6" piece of tubing, to the bottom of a storage tank. This was a dedicated low "working" pressure storage tank for the solenoid and cylinder. With his set up we were able to shoot just with pneumatics, and also be able to shoot back to back shots, needed for out two ball autonomous. https://youtu.be/IOU_eZ6CrqI |
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Re: Why use a manifold?
On our 2014 robot we used a pneumatic catapult. We ended up putting a large number of tanks on the working pressure side to assist. We also ended the season with higher CV solenoids than we started with due to performance issues.
One key thing we did was we started logging air pressure on the 120psi side, the working pressure (nominally 60), and at the piston. Key things we learned. 1) The regulator suffers from hysteresis and does not always return to the set point every time. 2) We could have a 30psi or greater pressure differential across the solenoid. I may still have the data available if anyone is interested. |
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