[FRC Blog] 2017 Einsteins and More

[marshall]

Originally Posted by AlexanderLuke

As already mentioned before me, dropping the bag is the solution to the bigger picture.

Shh!!! Don't say things like that. It makes the natives restless in these woods.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Frank is messing with you. Bag and tag is being eliminated for 2017 in honor of the first water game.

WHAT!?!?! I heard that it was mandatory, with a watertight seal on the bag, grounds of needing to keep most of the robot dry!

[Jaci]

In this thread: Non-International Teams saying a rule designed to help International Teams is "a solution to a non-problem".

Put it any way you want, but this is of huge help. As a member of teams from Australia (UTC+8, Perth, WA), these extra 12 hours mean a lot to us.

[Siri]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

I agree that it tries to make an unfair system appear more fair, but in actuality, it makes it more unfair. Time on stop build day is much more valuable for the majority of teams, compared to any other time in build season. Under the old system, teams get more or less time on kickoff day, but the same amount of time on stop build day. Under the new system, teams that get more time on kickoff get less time on stop build day, which is not even close to an even trade.

Are you talking about Hawaii and/or the difference between LA and NYC? Because this most drastically affects non-CONUS teams who live the other direction and get thus more time. Currently it's:
5AM in Honolulu
8AM in Los Angeles
11AM at FIRST HQ
12PM in Brasilia
4PM in London
5PM in Amsterdam
6PM in Tel Aviv and Istanbul
8:30PM in New Delhi
11PM in Beijing and Taipei
12AM in Tokyo (next day)
1AM in Canberra (next day)
Note this isn't accounting for daylight savings.

I love Hawaii too, but again I think this change is mostly looking east rather than west. West coast teams take a 3hr hit (5 for Hawaii) while international teams that already have enough challenges get multiple times that difference added on.

[jimbo493]

Heres a handy link to calculate when it will be in your time zone, due to the fact that we are in Daylight Savings right now it is an hour off, but when it matters we will not be, so that why its like that.

http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/...ard%20Time) &

I guess if you want to see it with EDT heres that link too

http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/...ght%20Time) &

[Michael Hill]

Originally Posted by jee7s

Please, Frank, read this and do it. Just say it's 05:00 Wednesday February 22, 2017 UTC. Define it against an unambiguous internationally defined time.

Also, isn't "midnight Tuesday" actually the first minute of Tuesday? I've always thought of Stop Build Day in terms of 11:59pm that day.

Wow, it looks like they took my (and I assume others') suggestion.