Constant Spam Threads

[ollien]

Originally Posted by Cory

That may be what he wants but what he actually asked for was all moderators to be alerted to the presence of spam outside their "preferred" forums...which won't do anything because they'd have to hunt down someone in that forum who actually has privileges to moderate it.

I should have been more clear. Asid61 is correct. Moderators should be given access to all boards. What I was talking about was Eric's notion that even if their privileges were to be extended, they wouldn't read the reports anyway.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by ollien

I should have been more clear. Asid61 is correct. Moderators should be given access to all boards. What I was talking about was Eric's notion that even if their privileges were to be extended, they would read the reports anyway.

Please do not put words into my mouth. (And, while you're at it, check your grammar--either you're missing a critical negative, or your post makes no sense.)


I was stating that mods might not WANT to have mod responsibilities in forums that they don't care much about, and might put up a bit of a fuss about that.

[ollien]

Originally Posted by EricH

Please do not put words into my mouth. (And, while you're at it, check your grammar--either you're missing a critical negative, or your post makes no sense.)


I was stating that mods might not WANT to have mod responsibilities in forums that they don't care much about, and might put up a bit of a fuss about that.

I'm sorry, I made a typo. I didn't put words in your mouth, however. You did state that moderators who weren't interested in a board wouldn't read the reports. This solves that problem.

Whether or not they want to is a technicality.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by ollien

I'm sorry, I made a typo. I didn't put words in your mouth, however. You did state that moderators who weren't interested in a board wouldn't read the reports. This solves that problem.

Again, you are putting words in my mouth. If this post does not make it clear, PM me.

There is a big difference between not wanting to read something, and not reading something. I did NOT say that moderators wouldn't read the reports. I DID say that moderators who weren't interested wouldn't WANT TO read the reports. If it helps to clarify the difference, I'll bet that there's at least one textbook that you don't want to read (because you aren't interested in that class, or for some similar reason)--but you read it anyways (at least, I hope you do). I know I'm that way about some topics.


And I'd rather not have a moderator who doesn't at least have a passing interest in that forum topic doing the moderation. Then we get the discussions about how Chit-Chat and the Rumor Mill need to be removed vs the cluttering of General with those same topics because they have no home now (because the mods decide to put it out for discussion). Yes, there has been discussion on those lines before.

[ollien]

Originally Posted by EricH

Again, you are putting words in my mouth. If this post does not make it clear, PM me.

There is a big difference between not wanting to read something, and not reading something. I did NOT say that moderators wouldn't read the reports. I DID say that moderators who weren't interested wouldn't WANT TO read the reports. If it helps to clarify the difference, I'll bet that there's at least one textbook that you don't want to read (because you aren't interested in that class, or for some similar reason)--but you read it anyways (at least, I hope you do). I know I'm that way about some topics.


And I'd rather not have a moderator who doesn't at least have a passing interest in that forum topic doing the moderation. Then we get the discussions about how Chit-Chat and the Rumor Mill need to be removed vs the cluttering of General with those same topics because they have no home now (because the mods decide to put it out for discussion). Yes, there has been discussion on those lines before.

I do understand the distinction. What mainly lead me to believe what that you you were saying was that moderators would not take care of the reports for certain boards was:

Originally Posted by EricH

So here's the other part of the question, and what I was actually getting at:

Let's say you're an EE, and you're "all business", and you're not really interested in much outside of EE. What forums are you going to ignore?

We can continue this conversation in the PMs, but I do want to make sure the air is cleared. This lead me in the direction of thinking that you were saying that moderations would not check the reports for those sections. As such, I offered solutions to the problem I thought you were stating.

The situation is simple: I misinterpreted what you were saying. If it felt I was putting words in your mouth, I'm sorry.

[Greg Needel]

At this point all mods should be given access to all forums, as mentioned above 99.99% of the moderating these days is getting rid of SPAM and not keeping people inline (like it used to be).


Also, I don't personally get email anymore for ANY forums because the volume of email got insane. I normally keep a tab with CD open most of the time and check every hour or so. It helps that by boss is cool with that

[WinterPoet]

We also have a new issue. It appears the spammers, particularly those posting porn have inspired actual people, or are hacking. Someone who is an actual member of the community recently posted something with a spam-ish title and an inappropriate image inside. So I have no idea if this person really hopped on the train, but I'm inclined to believe they were hacked, which creates the aforementioned whole new issue. Unless this has already been happening and I was unaware?

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by WinterPoet

We also have a new issue. It appears the spammers, particularly those posting porn have inspired actual people, or are hacking. Someone who is an actual member of the community recently posted something with a spam-ish title and an inappropriate image inside. So I have no idea if this person really hopped on the train, but I'm inclined to believe they were hacked, which creates the aforementioned whole new issue. Unless this has already been happening and I was unaware?

Which once again was posted using a free image hosting service. One would think that someone spamming as a legitimate spammer would have a location in which they were already hosting such images.

If it's real people doing it, the solution to the spam problem is easier said than done.

[bdaroz]

I agree, if the moderators would accept, that giving moderators the ability to moderate site-wide would be a help. It may also be worthwhile to add some "spam-only" moderators to help with the load as well. I know the vB tools don't allow for that segmentation, but it would have to be on the honor system.

[lynca]

Getting a Stack Exchange Q&A style design would be a huge improvement for the signal to noise ratio.
The best Answers get pushed to the top and more moderation controls.

Here are a couple potential software platforms:

0. Stack Exchange style - AskBot - https://askbot.com/
1. VEXforum style - (esoTalk) http://esotalk.org/ or successor Flarum

[Ben Wolsieffer]

Originally Posted by lynca

1. VEXforum style - (esoTalk) http://esotalk.org/ or successor Flarum

Brandon Martus is planning on switching to Flarum when it comes out of beta.