[FIRST EMAIL] Stop Build Day Survey

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Originally Posted by gblake

This is an old topic, and a long dead horse; constantly rehashed here on CD by a tiny, egregiously-lopsided fraction of the total FRC participants.* I haven't spotted a single new idea or argument in this iteration of the conversation.**

Surely neither I nor any other proponents or opponents if SBD/etc.need to repeat what has already been said a zillion times before. Instead this entire thread should be just a collection of hyperlinks to past posts.

While I'd agree that there are some people who really don't have anything new to add to this thread, there are students and mentors from whom I have never heard an opinion on this issue posting in this thread, and I personally see value in them sharing their opinions and experiences with us. If you don't, that's alright, but I'm pretty sure there are others who share my opinions on this.

On another note, you've rehashed this argument in a dozen other threads-- the truth is, clearly other people see a value in periodically discussing issues like this again. We can use our emojis all we want, but if we just throw all the controversial issues in the freezer since, clearly, nothing ever changes when it comes to FRC, we're not going to get new and valuable ideas on them.

Originally Posted by gblake

What the subject needs is some rigorous, properly-conducted research by an unbiased investigator(s), advised by the people who created, and still guide, the program.

Doesn't that sound reasonable? It's hard to argue against asking for good science/engineering experiments; but it's easy to argue that this thread isn't going to turn into one.

It does sound reasonable to me for FIRST and the community to work together to do research on this subject. Unbiased investigators might be a bit of a stretch, but certainly investigators with diverse perspectives and backgrounds would be reasonable. I do hope that some of those complaining about the issues with the survey have offered to help with further research on the subject. To any of those people who haven't already, getting in contact with Jamee (the current FRC team advocate) would be a good idea if you're interested in helping or suggesting this to FIRST. The email address is at the end of the survey, but if you can't remember, here it is: FRCTeamAdvocate@usfirst.org