[BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

[Michael Corsetto]

Given that MI and ON teams likely won't attend SRS, anyone want to take bets on how many slots for SRS will go un-filled? Price is right rules. I'll say 30.

-Mike

[Allison K]

This is the opposite of exciting. We'd have loved to go to south champs :/ We were hoping 2018 but given that the FiM district schedule isn't likely to be compressed any further it's not looking good.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by Allison K

This is the opposite of exciting. We'd have loved to go to SRS :/ We were hoping 2018 but given that the FiM district schedule isn't likely to be compressed any further it's not looking likely.

That's still a possibility. I'm sure if venue availability can be worked out, the event will move off of week 7!

[Allison K]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

That's still a possibility. I'm sure if venue availability can be worked out, the event will move off of week 7!

Oops, was talking and typing at the same time and wrote SRS instead of South Champs (went back to edit). In any case we'd have liked to go there too! We're trying to look ahead at opportunities to squish in an event with teams we don't generally get to interact with in 2018.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Given that MI and ON teams likely won't attend SRS, anyone want to take bets on how many slots for SRS will go un-filled? Price is right rules. I'll say 30.

-Mike

I would say under 10. You forget, there are around 90 teams in the Twin Cities, only 2.5 hours away. I bet a bunch of them would be willing to take that as a second play, especially considering that the other nearby regionals (Duluth, Wisconsin, Midwest, etc) have all been full for ages, and Iowa, despite being a rookie regional, was almost at capacity last year. This area has needed more events to accommodate growth, the event won't be nearly as empty as you think.

[hutchMN]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

I would say under 10. You forget, there are around 90 teams in the Twin Cities, only 2.5 hours away. I bet a bunch of them would be willing to take that as a second play, especially considering that the other nearby regionals (Duluth, Wisconsin, Midwest, etc) have all been full for ages, and Iowa, despite being a rookie regional, was almost at capacity last year. This area has needed more events to accommodate growth, the event won't be nearly as empty as you think.

Or a third play

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

I would say under 10. You forget, there are around 90 teams in the Twin Cities, only 2.5 hours away. I bet a bunch of them would be willing to take that as a second play, especially considering that the other nearby regionals (Duluth, Wisconsin, Midwest, etc) have all been full for ages, and Iowa, despite being a rookie regional, was almost at capacity last year. This area has needed more events to accommodate growth, the event won't be nearly as empty as you think.

Is it possible he meant "Super Regional South", or the South Championship? Not the Seven Rivers Regional, which has very confusingly similar initials, but I don't see where the second S comes from.

I wouldn't be surprised if South Championship just plain does not fill up all the way, with a limited process for switching to that championship and two of the larger district regions, plus WI / MN teams competing Week 7, being ineligible.

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Is it possible he meant "Super Regional South", or the South Championship? Not the Seven Rivers Regional, which has very confusingly similar initials, but I don't see where the second S comes from.

I wouldn't be surprised if South Championship just plain does not fill up all the way, with a limited process for switching to that championship and two of the larger district regions, plus WI / MN teams competing Week 7, being ineligible.

Ah yes, I did mean this. Sorry for the confusion Jon!

-Mike

[Jon Stratis]

That makes a bit more sense then! I don't think I've heard it called Super Regional before... even though there are two, FIRST still calls them champs, so why would we invent new terminology to confuse people with?

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

That makes a bit more sense then! I don't think I've heard it called Super Regional before... even though there are two, FIRST still calls them champs, so why would we invent new terminology to confuse people with?

Some people prefer more accurate designations. It's arguable which one is more clear.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

Some people prefer more accurate designations. It's arguable which one is more clear.

Seeing as FIRST clearly calls both Championships and no where in FRC even mentions the "Super Regional" term, I don't really see that as all that arguable.

Originally Posted by http://www.firstchampionship.org/

FIRST to host two championships in 2017 &2018

Community-invented terminology for something that FIRST has already provided terminology for only leads to confusion.

[IKE]

I hope/suspect that Hall of Fame and Founding teams will be given an option year to year though I also hope/suspect that FIRST will try to ensure some level of balance in the Hall of Fame teams.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Seeing as FIRST clearly calls both Championships and no where in FRC even mentions the "Super Regional" term, I don't really see that as all that arguable.


Community-invented terminology for something that FIRST has already provided terminology for only leads to confusion.

FIRST has taken feedback in the past on what event designations could be. District Events were once proposed be qualifying events, and district championships used to be called different things depending on the geography of the region.

[bdaroz]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Community-invented terminology for something that FIRST has already provided terminology for only leads to confusion.

The same argument can be made for changing the common definition of a word to have a different meaning:

From Miriam Webster's Definition of "Championship":

an important competition that decides which player or team is the best in a particular sport, game, etc.

(Note the singular use of team, or in our case substituting alliance would be appropriate.)

While Super Regional may not be FIRST's approved term, it does more aptly describe the event.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Community-invented terminology for something that FIRST has already provided terminology for only leads to confusion.

I'm calling them the "North Conference" and "South Conference" Championships.