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[BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

Posted 9/20: http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...hip-attendance

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You’ll remember that we’ve said we were working on a way to allow some teams to attend their non-home Championship in 2017. The good news is that we have figured out a way to do that. However, we’re still working on the document and flowchart that will explain the system, as it does have a number of moving parts. We hope to publish this in the next week or so, after we’ve gotten through this very busy week with initial event registration and the teaser release.


Also, there is something about this process you really need to know now. Our goal is to have the Week 8 Championship, in Houston, filled the week prior to the event, just as we have done with Championships in the past. This helps us make sure all teams are ready to attend, with their robots where they need to be, and allows us to do such things as create and publish preliminary match schedules before the weekend prior to the event. This means, though, that we want the team roster for Houston set before the start of any Week 7 events that are taking place. For this reason, teams earning their way to Championship at Week 7 events will not be able to attend the Houston event. While there is a chance, despite our best efforts, that some slots in Houston may still be available a few days prior to that event, we would be very likely in that situation to draw participants from local teams who would require little travel preparation.


The events currently scheduled for Week 7 in 2017 are the Michigan and Ontario District Championships, and the Seven Rivers Regional in Wisconsin. In the cases of Michigan and Ontario, all teams attending those events would normally be assigned to the St Louis Championship in Week 9. In the case of Wisconsin, it is likely that most teams attending would also be assigned to St Louis. However, without taking special steps for the Wisconsin event, we can’t guarantee that will be the case, and we do want to ensure no teams sign up for the event expecting to be assigned to St Louis when, in fact, they are from a geographic area assigned to Houston.


For this reason, only teams that would normally be assigned to the St Louis Championship will be allowed to attend the Seven Rivers Regional. While we had hoped to automate this process, our IT resources were focused on higher priority activities, and we will not be able to do so in time for registration on Thursday. So, instead, all teams attempting to register for the Seven Rivers Regional will be placed on the waitlist and moved into the event once they have been checked to ensure they are not from a geographic region that would normally be assigned to the Houston Championship.


While I don’t think there are many teams that would be interested in finding out on Saturday or Sunday that they’ve qualified for Championship at an event in Wisconsin, Michigan, or Ontario, only to need to be in Houston a few days later, I can’t rule it out. I’m sorry for any concern this causes. However, I do believe it’s the best thing to do for the program at this time.


It is very important for teams to recognize that the Championship they are assigned to depends on where their team’s home is, not where they earned their way to Championship. Every team should be conscious of this when they start signing up for events on Thursday. You can find the map with your assignment here.


It’s an exciting week! More to follow soon.

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Re: [BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

Hey Frank, you should email this out with the blasts as well.
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Re: [BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

Given that MI and ON teams likely won't attend SRS, anyone want to take bets on how many slots for SRS will go un-filled? Price is right rules. I'll say 30.

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Re: [BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

This is the opposite of exciting. We'd have loved to go to south champs :/ We were hoping 2018 but given that the FiM district schedule isn't likely to be compressed any further it's not looking good.
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Re: [BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

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Given that MI and ON teams likely won't attend SRS, anyone want to take bets on how many slots for SRS will go un-filled? Price is right rules. I'll say 30.

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I would say under 10. You forget, there are around 90 teams in the Twin Cities, only 2.5 hours away. I bet a bunch of them would be willing to take that as a second play, especially considering that the other nearby regionals (Duluth, Wisconsin, Midwest, etc) have all been full for ages, and Iowa, despite being a rookie regional, was almost at capacity last year. This area has needed more events to accommodate growth, the event won't be nearly as empty as you think.
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Re: [BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

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Given that MI and ON teams likely won't attend SRS, anyone want to take bets on how many slots for SRS will go un-filled? Price is right rules. I'll say 30.

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This is the opposite of exciting. We'd have loved to go to SRS :/ We were hoping 2018 but given that the FiM district schedule isn't likely to be compressed any further it's not looking likely.
That's still a possibility. I'm sure if venue availability can be worked out, the event will move off of week 7!
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Re: [BLOG] Week 7 Events and FIRST Championship Attendance

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I would say under 10. You forget, there are around 90 teams in the Twin Cities, only 2.5 hours away. I bet a bunch of them would be willing to take that as a second play, especially considering that the other nearby regionals (Duluth, Wisconsin, Midwest, etc) have all been full for ages, and Iowa, despite being a rookie regional, was almost at capacity last year. This area has needed more events to accommodate growth, the event won't be nearly as empty as you think.

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That's still a possibility. I'm sure if venue availability can be worked out, the event will move off of week 7!
Oops, was talking and typing at the same time and wrote SRS instead of South Champs (went back to edit). In any case we'd have liked to go there too! We're trying to look ahead at opportunities to squish in an event with teams we don't generally get to interact with in 2018.
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Given that MI and ON teams likely won't attend SRS, anyone want to take bets on how many slots for SRS will go un-filled? Price is right rules. I'll say 30.

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0. I really don't think that teams from the North are going to pass up the chance to play just because they can't qualify for South Champs.
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Given that MI and ON teams likely won't attend SRS, anyone want to take bets on how many slots for SRS will go un-filled? Price is right rules. I'll say 30.

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I wouldn't take this bet, I haven't recently looked at it recently but I'd be willing to bet teams don't, on average, travel much more than a couple hundred miles. And that's pretty far north. Maybe you'd have a handful of teams from the south that would head up there but I don't really think it's gonna be that many.

Edit - terminology.

For the Southern FIRST Exhibition - No idea. This year they might fill it. In the future who knows.
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I would say under 10. You forget, there are around 90 teams in the Twin Cities, only 2.5 hours away. I bet a bunch of them would be willing to take that as a second play, especially considering that the other nearby regionals (Duluth, Wisconsin, Midwest, etc) have all been full for ages, and Iowa, despite being a rookie regional, was almost at capacity last year. This area has needed more events to accommodate growth, the event won't be nearly as empty as you think.
Is it possible he meant "Super Regional South", or the South Championship? Not the Seven Rivers Regional, which has very confusingly similar initials, but I don't see where the second S comes from.

I wouldn't be surprised if South Championship just plain does not fill up all the way, with a limited process for switching to that championship and two of the larger district regions, plus WI / MN teams competing Week 7, being ineligible.
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I would say under 10. You forget, there are around 90 teams in the Twin Cities, only 2.5 hours away. I bet a bunch of them would be willing to take that as a second play, especially considering that the other nearby regionals (Duluth, Wisconsin, Midwest, etc) have all been full for ages, and Iowa, despite being a rookie regional, was almost at capacity last year. This area has needed more events to accommodate growth, the event won't be nearly as empty as you think.
I wouldn't assume I forgot, but you are welcome to assume the things I am and am not forgetting.

Stratis says under 10. Any more bets (thanks Adam!)

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Is it possible he meant "Super Regional South", or the South Championship? Not the Seven Rivers Regional, which has very confusingly similar initials, but I don't see where the second S comes from.

I wouldn't be surprised if South Championship just plain does not fill up all the way, with a limited process for switching to that championship and two of the larger district regions, plus WI / MN teams competing Week 7, being ineligible.
Ah yes, I did mean this. Sorry for the confusion Jon!

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