Dream Alliance of Stronghold

[Kevin Leonard]

A stronghold dream alliance would have to:
Have three robots with high throughput in the high goal, preferably difficult to defend and shooting from different locations.
Have three climbs that can climb simultaneously.
Have as many balls in autonomous as possible without requiring the same field space.

971, 254, 1678, and 195 were the most proven 2 ball autonomous modes, but 1678, 971 and 195 all usually use the low bar. In addition, 195 and 254 have low release points, and defense can impact their scoring more than, for example, 971 and 1678. Additionally, how much these team's climbs would interfere with one another is a question. As a result, I might substitute 148 in for one of the three teams instead.

Something like 971-254-148 or 971-1678-148. But really you could argue for any combination of these teams.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

A stronghold dream alliance would have to:
Have three robots with high throughput in the high goal, preferably difficult to defend and shooting from different locations.
Have three climbs that can climb simultaneously.
Have as many balls in autonomous as possible without requiring the same field space.

971, 254, 1678, and 195 were the most proven 2 ball autonomous modes, but 1678, 971 and 195 all usually use the low bar. In addition, 195 and 254 have low release points, and defense can impact their scoring more than, for example, 971 and 1678. Additionally, how much these team's climbs would interfere with one another is a question. As a result, I might substitute 148 in for one of the three teams instead.

Something like 971-254-148 or 971-1678-148. But really you could argue for any combination of these teams.

Most two ball auto teams "usually" run it under the low bar, that's just the nature of the in season rules on two ball autos and consistency.

If you sub out a 2 ball auto for a third hang, you're getting the same result in terms of points on the board. So the best possible alliance needs more than 1 2 ball auto I think; a third hang only if possible.

I think you have to include 195, because their scoring volume at their peak and the consistency of their two ball are IMO the best in the world. They can have the low bar.

971 I believe has 2 ball options from other than the low bar, so they can be robot 2. They do plenty of secret passage sniping and crossing defenses to score. Perhaps 254 is a better choice here with more 2 ball options, but I think 971 at their peak could potentially outdo them.

From there you just want a robot with absolute consistency and high goal scoring. I think 2056 can manage that ever so slightly better than 148 can, but it's close enough that I'd need to look at real data to tell the difference.

It's more than possible that 971 and 195 would have such good ball control and quickness in scoring, that their scoring would be ball-limited and not robot-limited, in which case a third compatible hang is more important than absolute ball scoring ability, so that brings you back to 148 as the best team that does that style of hang. 330 is also an option, but their 1 ball auto isn't as consistent.

[D.Allred]

2056, 118, and 971

70 point auto
Compatible, fast triple scale
Flexible shooting positions
Can shoot over blockers or at batter

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

A stronghold dream alliance would have to:
Have three robots with high throughput in the high goal, preferably difficult to defend and shooting from different locations.
Have three climbs that can climb simultaneously.
Have as many balls in autonomous as possible without requiring the same field space.

971, 254, 1678, and 195 were the most proven 2 ball autonomous modes, but 1678, 971 and 195 all usually use the low bar. In addition, 195 and 254 have low release points, and defense can impact their scoring more than, for example, 971 and 1678. Additionally, how much these team's climbs would interfere with one another is a question. As a result, I might substitute 148 in for one of the three teams instead.

Something like 971-254-148 or 971-1678-148. But really you could argue for any combination of these teams.

971-1678-148 were all together in Hopper of course. Unfortunately one had to be left out...

[parthpatel612]

Team 1986- Shooting high goal cycles
Team 2056- Shooting high goal cycles
Team 4828- defensive blocking capability (with addition of climbing capabilities)

Would be a shutout and a triple climb