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Re: Build Spaces?

I'm a new fan of both 987 and 148's build space.
I cant wait until 987 shares what they shared with me on their new and improved work area.
We have 7500 sq ft. of dedicated work spaces, however, it also has a lot of automotive remnants still in our shops. It is also so compartmentalized that we cant put a full size field anywhere.
After seeing 987's one in detail, my main mission and push now is to get a 2 1/2 story building, where much of the space is dedicated to STEM/Robotics.
Estimated costs so far is 11 million.
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Re: Build Spaces?

Thank you for all the responses! Our team definitely has a better idea of how to proceed.
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Re: Build Spaces?

Well team 5980 works in our highschoools band room
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Re: Build Spaces?

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Does anyone have a good list of what teams/schools/organizations have recently (past 6 years) built a new dedicated facility for their STEM/STEAM/Robotics programs?

So far I have:
Dos Pueblos Engineering Academy
Hawthorne High School
Katy ISD in Texas

Who am I missing? Looking for more examples here.
Not a full building, but Union County Magnet High School is renovating a particularly large computer lab and conference room into a new makerspace to support STEM/our engineering vocational specialty. It's not specifically for 1257, but the team will be working there as soon as construction finishes.

My favorite part of it is that the students designed it.
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Re: Build Spaces?

2855 was based out of a science room closet until last year: basically we had to take everything out and clean everything up each night, costing us about an hour per day.

Last year, however, we took over half of one of our coach's classroom for our shop, with a distinctive divider of bookshelves to keep non-robotics students out of the shop during the school day. Our marketing team worked out of the school's small science computer lab and our other coach's classroom.

This coming summer, our school is doing a major renovation and we have been pushing for a dedicated space. We'll see if we get space later this fall.
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Unread 09-09-2016, 17:40
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Re: Build Spaces?

I figured I'd chime in here. 148 was fortunate enough to be given space in a new Career and Technology wing that was added to our high school. In May of 2014 our community voted yes on a $79 million bond to upgrade all technology in the district, tear down and rebuild an elementary school, do much needed maintenance work on all campuses and build a CTE wing onto the existing high school. In that wing we were given about 8000 sqft for a competition arena, a build area, a small machine shop, and a classroom. I have some drawings of the building if anyone is interested but the pictures speak much louder than the drawings! Here is an album of how it looks today. We are still under construction a little, and have a lot more to set up but this gives you a good idea of the space.

https://goo.gl/photos/yqpM27rvg43dW4rv7

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Re: Build Spaces?

237 has had a 'spare' classroom at the high school since it was renovated 4 years ago. Previously we had mostly worked out of closets and had to clean up and put everything away each night. Most general work was done in the café on the table originally with use of the wood shop and metals rooms for specific tasks. Again, they needed to be cleaned up and put back the way we found them every night too.

We still use the metal and woods rooms but having our own room is the best situation we've been in since the team's founding in 1998. Not having to share a closet and then having things disturbed or worse, disappear, is a luxury!
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Re: Build Spaces?

There are a lot of options for a build site. My team is fully independent (we are not associated with a school or club) so we don't have a classroom that we can work out of. Because of this my team works out of an office space (graciously given to us by a sponsor) during the off season. During build/competition season we try to get a industrial/wharehouse space donated by a sponsor (similar to how we got an office space donated). If we can't get a space donated, we will work out of the basement of one of our team members.

The way we find a wharehouse/industrial space is by finding a building that is for sale or for lease but has been vacant for a while. With buildings that have been vacant for a while the owners/landlords are usually willing to let you use the space while they are trying to sell it (just make sure that you have something in writing so that they won't kick you out when they find a buyer).
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Re: Build Spaces?

Recently 2869 expanded its build space into 2 joined rooms. It is not massive but its definitely an amazing size coming off the previous amount of space we have had. The main room is 690 Square Feet. We then have a 3' by 3' closet along with a around 230 square foot side room. In the main room we have all of our tools. Mill, lathe, drill presses, chop saws, table saw, bench grinder, belt sander, metal brake, small arbor press, and small cnc router. Along both sideq walls there is copper piping with pneumatic quick disconnects and there are original outlets everywhere along the walls as the room used to be part of a auto tech lab many many years ago. In the center there are retractable pneumatic and power drops. We then have 8 Hardwood tables. 4 of them are ones we built after we found the wood getting thrown out. Those 4 are about 5' long and 2 feet wide. The wood is about 2" thick and is extremely strong. It was a lot of work to get them to a good looking condition but was well worth it. The homemade ones will hold machines mostly. They are less wide making them better for machines then work. The other 4 were given to us by the school. They are bigger at around 3' wide by 6" long. The tabletop is similar in strength but, the legs on them are going to be stronger. Those tables will be run down the center of the room as well as down the one side wall and will be used for electrical, and assembly. In the main room we also built a loft out of 1/8" thick 1.25*1.25 steel L bracket. This loft is made for sheet material storage as well as long metal storage. It allows that stuff to not get forgotten behind a table and since we had the metal laying around after salvaging it from a shelving unit it was free. The metal stock we use the most is stored under 2 of the machine tables on top of a little ledge. The rest of our materials (Small pieces of aluminum, pvc, wood, and pool noodles) are stored in the closet in a wooden organizer. Along the back wall there is a large folding lunch table with a vise mounted to it. It is the biggest remnant of how we used to work which involved rolling everything into the hallway. This table is very useful because we can keep it down for the building portion of the season for extra space and keep our carpet underneath it. When its time to practice we can fold it up it then taking about 4' by 2' of space and have a carpet fold out. The carpet isnt huge probably 15x15 but its still nice for some practice. The back of the room will also store practice game elements which depending on the game will either be used in our room or brought to a larger room like a gym, or cafeteria. The last few things in the main room are all of our hand tools which are either stored in carts, homemade organizers, or small bins along with all of our hardware which currently needs to be organized. The last bit of stuff that is in our room is the electrical and pneumatic carts.

The side room is connected with a large windowed door from the main room. It also has metal strengthened Windows along 1/2 of it allowing whoever is working in either room to see each other. One side of that room is shelving where we store most of our COTS parts, and other non robotics stuff like T-shirts, tents, banners, ect. We also store our old robots in this room which currently means a single bot from the 2015 offseason . There is then a large stack of totes which house some very long term storage. Stuff like our old vex parts and giant resistor collection we probably will only need once every few years. The rest of the room is tables and chairs housing our CAD and Programming teams. There are going to be about 4 or 5 computers in there 3 for CAD and 2 programming. We are still waiting back on a sponsor who could provide us more then enough of both, but for now we are limited to 5. The CAD pc's will also be utilized by the programming team later in the season when most of the CAD is 'done'. This room will be kept much cleaner then the main room as we will also use it to eat during the season. It will contain a mini fridge and microwave and is heated and air conditioned making it an overall nice room to eat in.

So, that's basically it. If you read through that wall of text good job. I mostly wrote it for myself to organize my thoughts and figured someone would probably read it and get a few ideas from it. The expansion is still a work in progress. 4 of the tables are still being built. The center drops still have to be mounted, the mill still has to get wired up, and some remnants of the side room (Computer trash) need to be moved. But overall its going great and having this much space is amazing.
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Re: Build Spaces?

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I figured I'd chime in here. 148 was fortunate enough to be given space in a new Career and Technology wing that was added to our high school. In May of 2014 our community voted yes on a $79 million bond to upgrade all technology in the district, tear down and rebuild an elementary school, do much needed maintenance work on all campuses and build a CTE wing onto the existing high school. In that wing we were given about 8000 sqft for a competition arena, a build area, a small machine shop, and a classroom. I have some drawings of the building if anyone is interested but the pictures speak much louder than the drawings! Here is an album of how it looks today. We are still under construction a little, and have a lot more to set up but this gives you a good idea of the space.

https://goo.gl/photos/yqpM27rvg43dW4rv7

Please feel free to contact me with any questions.
Hi Adrienne,
I had no idea that you posted here until now. Team 148's setup is very impressive. Best part is it's brand new!

Can you send me drawings of the building if possible? I also would like to use your photos as examples.
987 has already shared theirs with me already.

We plan to meet with our legislators later this month after already submitting a needs assessment/request. We plan to also host several town hall meetings prior to submitting our final plans for a legislative bill early Spring.

Can you share what Team 148's facilities cost was of the total funds?

Glenn

I also wanted to share that one of our middle schools in Hawaii recently got a science and technology center built which was unveiled right before we left for China.
Its a 20,684 sq ft building. They normally host our VEX Middle School State Championships and we look forward to trying to 3-peat in their brand new center!
If we can get the requested 11 million, this is the size I want.
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Re: Build Spaces?

Ben, our team is in the almost exact situation as your team. We formed completely independent of the school district so don't have that as an option. I have been calling around to some empty spaces but no luck. Has anyone ever looked into self storage locations?
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Re: Build Spaces?

In the case of QCRA like I mentioned above, we are in an old airport warehouse. Finding industrial space is great for us because we are a community based non-profit and not tied to any school system.

Finding a sponsor with a warehouse, renting the space and fundraising for it, or partnering with an organization where both entities can benefit have been are go to methods for keeping the space alive.
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I can say that having more storage space than you really need is helpful.

Especially when your team doesn't have exact set out places for every nut and bolt.
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We are reducing our space (which must serve all storage and build as well) this year.
As a follow-up, we have identified two unused circuits in our breaker panel (a non-functional 220V heater), and have made this into two 110 circuits, one inside the building (which shall be used to feed drops from the suspended ceiling onto the workbenches), and one outside; these will supplement the single 20A outlet circuit we had previously (it's a bit of a marvel that we never tripped that breaker, given what we've powered from it). We are also building an outdoor workbench off of our elevated boardwalk with a roof and insertable "rain panels" in front of the outdoor circuit.

The bottom line is that unless your build space fully meets (or exceeds) your needs, you must spend some money and effort maximizing what you do have.
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