2017 Chairman's Hall of Fame Predictions

[GarroH]

Originally Posted by Oromus

3. Champs predictions are more difficult because at champs, the winner is chosen based off of the quality of their submissions and outreach

I know you may not have meant to, but this implies that Chairman's at other events is not chosen based on the quality of their submission.
I know at regionals and districts the judges may know the teams more personally, but I feel like the award is still given based upon the submission and outreach quality, right?

[Red2486]

Originally Posted by GarroH

I know you may not have meant to, but this implies that Chairman's at other events is not chosen based on the quality of their submission.
I know at regionals and districts the judges may know the teams more personally, but I feel like the award is still given based upon the submission and outreach quality, right?

I was a little confused by this statement, too. The Chairman's Award is based on the submission at all levels. While it is easy to assume that a team with a streak or a lot of relevant wins would be the "best", Judges are trained to do their best to objectively decide who will earn each award based on their submissions.

[Oromus]

Originally Posted by GarroH

I know you may not have meant to, but this implies that Chairman's at other events is not chosen based on the quality of their submission.
I know at regionals and districts the judges may know the teams more personally, but I feel like the award is still given based upon the submission and outreach quality, right?

Originally Posted by Red2486

I was a little confused by this statement, too. The Chairman's Award is based on the submission at all levels. While it is easy to assume that a team with a streak or a lot of relevant wins would be the "best", Judges are trained to do their best to objectively decide who will earn each award based on their submissions.

You guys are taking part of fast response to questions about my script waaay out of it's context and intended meaning. I was referring to how there's usually a gap in the teams at regionals and that makes it easier to predict wins for the script. At champs the teams, statistically, are tied and the script doesn't know who to predict, since the deciding factor (submission quality) isn't considered by the script. I was in no way implying regional Chairman's (or any Chairman's for that matter) wasn't quality or submission based. Hate to cause confusion, would never disrespect the award or the people judging it

[Jacob Bendicksen]

For north champs I have to think 503 is close to a lock...they're way overdue.

South champs will be a bit more competitive, in my mind. I'm biased towards 1540, of course, and between 1311 (under the radar but an amazing program), 2486 (running FIRST in Arizona, basically), and 3132 (might be a bit young still, but who else can say they started FIRST on a continent?), Houston should be really competitive.

[Munchskull]

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen

South champs will be a bit more competitive, in my mind. I'm biased towards 1540, of course, and between 1311 (under the radar but an amazing program), 2486 (running FIRST in Arizona, basically), and 3132 (might be a bit young still, but who else can say they started FIRST on a continent?), Houston should be really competitive.

I would have to agree with Jacobs predictions. Those four team are all very deserving of the award and more than qualified to win it IMO. I would personally love to see 1540 win it since I have seen the work that they do first hand here in Oregon. Alternatively I think that 1311 has a great shot too, having talked with them before their program and commitment to changing culture for the better is unprecedented.

[SpaceBiz]

Originally Posted by 1629GaCo

836 - The RoboBees, amazing team and outreach, and always in contention for Chairman's!!

And of course 1629!

You guys and 836 are definitely strong contenders for CHS DCMPs, but I don't know about worlds. I mean, what teams have won chairmans at worlds following not winning it at either their DCMP or a regional the prior year? (as in got to present chairmans at worlds the prior year)

I am 90% sure the first CHS team to win chairmans at champs will be 1885. If that is meant to happen this year, I don't know, but I don't think anyone other than 1885 is basically a lock to win Chairmans at DCMPs, and therefore the only extremely strong contender for worlds. Also 1885 is fourth for CPR at north champs.

[TDav540]

Originally Posted by SpaceBiz

You guys and 836 are definitely strong contenders for CHS DCMPs, but I don't know about worlds. I mean, what teams have won chairmans at worlds following not winning it at either their DCMP or a regional the prior year? (as in got to present chairmans at worlds the prior year)

I am 90% sure the first CHS team to win chairmans at champs will be 1885. If that is meant to happen this year, I don't know, but I don't think anyone other than 1885 is basically a lock to win Chairmans at DCMPs, and therefore the only extremely strong contender for worlds. Also 1885 is fourth for CPR at north champs.

In case you didn't know, 1629 won Engineering Inspiration at Worlds in 2011 and 2012. And that was before it was split up into divisions. They definitely have the program to make it happen.

Chesapeake is a pretty strong region for that award. I agree with you: my money would also be on 1885. But don't sleep on GaCo, 836, and the lovable cheeseheads (1086). 384 also has a propensity for winning the award in the region. They could surprise.

[SpaceBiz]

Originally Posted by TDav540

In case you didn't know, 1629 won Engineering Inspiration at Worlds in 2011 and 2012. And that was before it was split up into divisions. They definitely have the program to make it happen.

Chesapeake is a pretty strong region for that award. I agree with you: my money would also be on 1885. But don't sleep on GaCo, 836, and the lovable cheeseheads (1086). 384 also has a propensity for winning the award in the region. They could surprise.

I was aware they won it at worlds, but didn't know that was before they split it up into divisions. Impressive. I did not mean to sound like I was talking bad about 836 or 1629, they are actually two of my personal favorite teams in CHS.

2537 started one, almost two FRC teams in 2016. We wouldn't have more than an outside chance of beating either of them in a hypothetical chairman's head to head.

I also am aware of all of the extremely impressive things 1086 and 384 did to earn a spot over the likes of 836 and 1629 and other impressive awards teams.

But I still take 1885 on the (half) world stage any day of the week.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by GarroH

I know you may not have meant to, but this implies that Chairman's at other events is not chosen based on the quality of their submission.
I know at regionals and districts the judges may know the teams more personally, but I feel like the award is still given based upon the submission and outreach quality, right?

In my experience as a submitter, it isn't. There has been feedback given that implied that "you guys have won enough" which is explicitly NOT in the criteria.

[GarroH]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

In my experience as a submitter, it isn't. There has been feedback given that implied that "you guys have won enough" which is explicitly NOT in the criteria.

Having won a few times and submitted a couple more, I have had a few similar experiences. That's one of the reasons I was asking.

But how Chairman's is judged and decided is a completely different discussion.