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What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

So during an alliance selection, you are the alliance caption and you pick a team to be on your alliance and you get denied. Then you get denied similarly by all teams in the competition.

What would happen? You obviously cannot get picked if you say no. If you are in the top 8, you can pick a team but they've already denied the #1 alliance.

This is just a hypothetical question.
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

There's no rule for this because it would obviously never happen, but if I had to wager a guess, they would do a repeat of the alliance selection process and hopefully the outcome would be different. If the reason everyone denied was that they are unable to compete, they would probably just crown the 1st seed (and maybe even 2 and 3) the winner(s).
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

While there is no rules stating what would happen if this were to happen based on the rules of the competition it would most likely result in one of two scenarios:

1. If everyone said no then only the top 8 would compete in elims and we would have 1 winner.

2. If everyone at the competition was broken then it would mean that in years where humans can't score points without robots (05, 08, 10, 14, 16) it would be down to what I am guessing would be a rock-paper-scissors tournament in the center of the field. If it was years where humans could score points (06, 07, 09, 11, 12, 13, 15) then you better have picked the best human player you could think of cause they are about to win you a robotics tournament,
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

I think the outcome with the highest likelihood in this situation is a frantic call to FIRST.
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

As far as the rules allow, there would be no eligible teams left for anyone to pick in alliance selection, so each alliance would consist of a single team. 1v1 matches all the way to the finals.

There's nothing in the rules that suggests a re-draft is allowed or anything like that, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone at the event decided that would happen.
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

Just as a point of interest, there has been at least one case where the alliance captains almost all declined the #1 seed. kept other teams from moving up to become captain's, and prevented picking within the other top 8 teams.
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

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2. If everyone at the competition was broken then it would mean that in years where humans can't score points without robots (05, 08, 10, 14, 16)...
Hey, 2016 is totally feasible if you happen to be 195. Just roll that boulder over the Cheval right into the low goal.
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team

Waste of time - this would never happen in 5000 lifetimes. Why would anyone 9-40 (or whatever) decline knowing their tourney was then "over". Even if all broken (which would never happen), the final team would say yes anyway....

Time to spend time on things more meaningful. (and I detest myself for even replying to this drivel)
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Hey, 2016 is totally feasible if you happen to be 195. Just roll that boulder over the Cheval right into the low goal.
Fixed it for you.
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...you are the alliance caption...
Did you mean for the Caption Contest, or some other kind of caption? Wouldn't there need to be an image associated with the caption? I am confused.
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Fixed it for you.
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Did you mean for the Caption Contest, or some other kind of caption? Wouldn't there need to be an image associated with the caption? I am confused.
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Is that where somebody posts a caption and then people describe or draw the picture that could've inspired it?
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Is that where somebody posts a caption and then people describe or draw the picture that could've inspired it?
That could be it, but I was thinking more along the lines of those who participate in FCC choose their alliances of 3 captioners and follow them throughout the season. Whoever's alliances gets the most total points wins.
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Is that where somebody posts a caption and then people describe or draw the picture that could've inspired it?

This should actually be a thing.
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Just as a point of interest, there has been at least one case where the alliance captains almost all declined the #1 seed. kept other teams from moving up to become captain's, and prevented picking within the other top 8 teams.
There's Scorched Earth, then there's OP's scenario, which would be like Heat Death of the Universe or so...
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