STEM vs. STEAM

[BenDSterling]

As many people have said, I also believe the important part is how we define "art". I believe the art in STEAM is not art lie painting, but instead art like architecture and design. Just imagine if only people from STEM fields built a building. It would be very functional, but man would it look awful. Or imagine any of apples products without design, it would be an android (jk not trying to start another debate). Architecture and design are just as important as Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math.

Ther for, I personally support STEAM over STEM.

[JayNico]

STEAM
Science, Technology, Engineering, Aeronautics, and Mathematics

[Richard Wallace]

From the Steamworks DLC Pack 1, Recruitment Poster 3:

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against a field of competitors.

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My sense of art embraces much that will not be found in galleries or on stages. Most people appreciate architecture as art. For me, the interplay of electricity and magnetism with dynamic mechanisms is also art.

I have been a Tolkien fan since I first read The Hobbit in 1969. To begin his Appendices to LOTR, the Oxford Don described one of his most ancient characters as "the greatest ... in arts and lore."

For me, this sums both scholarly and professional accomplishments. I place science, technology, engineering, and mathematics among the Arts , and I see the literature and experiences they offer as Lore. We humans are more than animals, because we have arts and lore.

[ratdude747]

Originally Posted by MrForbes

LeMons Rally. Not 24 Hours of LeMons. Big difference.

and you're welcome to buy it and restore it...but that would be a foolish thing to do, with a 1959 Ranger Sedan. They're very common as Edsels go, and have little intrinsic value. And very expensive to fix up. But the fun factor....yeah, they're fun to play with! Brings a smile to many who see it.

And according to an art teacher I encountered somewhere in California, the car is Art.

^I did not know that said lemon logo was used for more than the 24 Hours of LeMons. My apologies.

I'm not in a position to fix one up... I was under the impression all Edsels had serious value due to their notoriety. I did know they were expensive/difficult to work on (all of the poorly integrated gadgets and the notorious steering wheel harness problems come to mind). Nice car, I will say that.

[MrForbes]

thanks! It's not a nice car, but it's neat that I drive it around. The 58s had all kinds of fun special Edsel problems, while the 59 was basically a Ford that got beat with an ugly stick. I think that most folks were embarrassed to drive them when the cars were still young, after FoMoCo gave up on the brand, so they just parked them and let them rot. A surprising number of them have low mileage, and excellent original interiors (in the northern parts of the country, at least).

Art is where you find it. According to some. I like to put art in stuff I build, too. A sense of aesthetics on the part of the designer, really makes a machine come to life. Much modern design leaves me cold. I guess I'm just getting old.

And I like the whole STEAM thing, although the Steampunk phenomenon is a bit weird, seeing the world through engineer eyes, as I do. I love when form follows function....Steampunk appears to me to be form without function.

Should be an interesting season!

[snorthey]

I have not read the whole thread bu has any one made the connection to STEAM punk to STEAM education....

Frankly I see all things as Art... a well made motor is art to me.... you cannot seperate art in to a tower it surrounds every aspect of our life weather one acknoleges it or not....